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2024.05.14 06:38 chain_choker 11 year age gap?

I’d like to begin this invitation of advice or experiences by stating that what I want in life is a partner who feels like home, will always give me their genuine effort, & will love me through all of the highs, mediums, & lows of life.
I specifically want to know about any advice or things I should consider when it comes to the age gap I have with the man I’m seriously considering making a staple & serious part of my life. I (29f) met Chance (40m) 3 years ago & we have been seeing each other for a little over a year. We met at the middle school in which we both work- he’s the social worker, I’m the art teacher. When I first saw him, he looked like a meat head (he’s pretty muscular, bald, beard, wears hoodies) & I’ve always been into nerds so it never occurred to me that I’d end up attracted to him. The first year we knew each other, it was very surface level, & then, during the second year of my time at the school, I got to know him better, as I did a few coworkers I now consider close friends. This second year of friendship was also a tough period for me as I was going through a divorce from a 5 year relationship with a man who wasn’t on the same life path as me & kind of made me dislike myself just for being me (wanting kids, needing to be intrinsically motivated in my career rather than financially motivated)- basically he was type A & I am B. Anyhow, as I was processing my divorce & creating friendships, I got to know Chance better both at work & at hang outs with friends outside of work. I watched how the kids at school just flocked to him & how kind he was with everybody. He coached the basketball team, did an after school program with the SRO to help at risk kids, & often stepped in to help others with tasks that weren’t related to his job as social worker. & he always did it with a positive attitude & good sense of humor. People just LIKE him, you know? It became obvious that he was just a really good person. One day, we had a discussion about kids & how we both wanted them. He told me I’d be a great mother because of how I treat the students & I told him he’d also be a wonderful parent. & he cast his spell on me & I slowly started falling for him. I couldn’t quite figure it out. Here I was, recently divorced from a relationship that had a tremendous affect on me mentally/emotionally, & I was gaining feelings for a man who was very different from my ex, & 11 years older than me. Was I just looking for a distraction? Was I using him to boost my confidence up after it had spent so much time at all time low? Or was I simply recognizing that this man had all of the features that I’d been missing in my past relationship & maybe I should pay attention to that? I was worried that my judgement post- divorce couldn’t possibly be clear, so I expressed that I had feelings for him but had to take things very slow. I was a bit of a mess as I tried to take the initial steps to get closer to him. I’d get emotional & have somewhat of a panic attack, or I’d go through some wishy washy phases when it came to wanting to see him in general. No matter what it was, he said that he understood, he wasn’t going anywhere, & that he just wanted me to be ok. He’d always ask what he could do to help & what I needed from him to feel better. If we were kissing & he felt that I wasn’t comfortable, he’d stop. One time he could tell that I wasn’t feeling great & he cried because he thought he’d made me feel bad. Needless to say, he was always there for me & ACTUALLY cared about how I felt. As we got closer, he was always respectful, would leave me flowers on random or special occasions (like when I was in an art show that he attended, or the first day of a new semester at work), wanted to make things like holidays memorable for me (one time I specifically thought was sweet was when he decorated my place with a Christmas tree & lights because “it’s your first Christmas in your new apartment, it should be festive!”). I consistently got solid evidence that he was emotionally mature, ready for a relationship, & wanted the same things as me.
So, I thought, “why is this sweet, courteous, kind, responsible, funny man single?” I’d heard some woman at work “pick” at him about this & say “I just don’t get how you’re single!” & I honestly wondered myself. You always heard that it’s a ref flag if a man dates a woman over 10 years younger & that it’s because “women his age didn’t want him”. Well, there are a few rational explanations I could think of: 1. He’d been sexually abused by his stepsister for years as a child. He’d told me that he’d had a few relationships during his 20s & 30s, but they didn’t last long & he’d had some issues with women not dealing with his anxiety around sex well. With me, this was not an issue, really. We’d taken the physical really slow, & when one of us felt anxiety as things heated up, the other stopped & supported. After a few months, it became a non-issue & we were able to have great sex with no fear that one of us would get anxious. 2. When he was younger (childhood-20s) he was overweight. He began balding in his 20s & so he shaved his head. Maybe there weren’t a lot of women who wanted to be with the overweight, bald guy? Women can be just as shallow as men.
So, I began to try to look for any signs that maybe this man is “grooming” me or something. I looked for issues as well as green lights. How’s his family? His brother is happily married with children & Chance is close with his family, seeing them weekly. What are his friends like? I enjoy his friends. They’re nice, fun people & his best friends are in happy marriages. Does he manipulate you? No, he treats me like a princess (I’m not used to it) & tries to establish healthy relationship patterns (he always insists on a weekly date night, suggests activities together, such as me weight lifting with him & him running with me). He also hypes me up like no other- If I’m wearing a risky outfit that I love but know my mom would insult, BAM Chance is the first one to see it & his jaw drops to the floor. Always telling me how strong, sweet, & cool I am. Made me take his gloves when we went on a snowy hike & I’d forgotten mine. Just basically an endless stream of courtesy.
I have gotten a lot of evidence that this is a solid person with whom I could build a beautiful relationship & family with. Everything he’s shown me has been positive as far as communication, morals, empathy, kindness & life plans is concerned.
So… is the 11 year age gap a concern? Should I be more paranoid about why he is still single, or are my theories valid? Although he goes to the gym daily & is like a kid at heart, should I worry about his age when it comes to us potentially raising kids? He’d likely be 43-45 by the time I was ready for that.
If you have any thoughts, please let me know. Truthfully, I do have other potential options if I pursued them & I’m not afraid of being alone, but I’m feeling that I’d like to commit to a relationship.
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2024.05.13 22:44 C3PH4L0SP0R1N "A Shadow on the Soul"

This is an expansion of a recent post and also incorporates some ideas from this theory (by u/ndependent-Design17). Throughout the series the reader is repeatedly reminded that "only death can pay for life" — that magic, especially powerful magic, comes at great cost.
"Only death can pay for life, my lord. A great gift requires a great sacrifice.”
Davos, ASOS
This phrase or variations of this phrase are repeated by Melisandre, Mirri, etc. at various points throughout the series. That which follows is a highly speculative theory on the nature of the cost of magic in the series. Specifically, that souls are central to the exercise of magic and can be used as magic currency.

1. establishing the concept of the soul

Oh, to be sure, there is much we do not understand. The years pass in their hundreds and their thousands, and what does any man see of life but a few summers, a few winters? We look at mountains and call them eternal, and so they seem… but in the course of time, mountains rise and fall, rivers change their courses, stars fall from the sky, and great cities sink beneath the sea. Even gods die, we think. Everything changes.
Bran, AGOT
What happens after we die? Is there some part of us that lives on or do we simply cease to exist. These are fundamental questions that are essentially unanswerable in life but not in ASOIAF. The reader is given a point-of-view account of death in the prologue of ADWD. After unsuccessfully attempting to steal the body of Thistle, a wildling spearwife, Varamyr dies and briefly becomes a disembodied consciousness:
The white world turned and fell away. For a moment it was as if he were inside the weirwood, gazing out through carved red eyes as a dying man twitched feebly on the ground and a madwoman danced blind and bloody underneath the moon, weeping red tears and ripping at her clothes. Then both were gone and he was rising, melting, his spirit borne on some cold wind. He was in the snow and in the clouds, he was a sparrow, a squirrel, an oak. A horned owl flew silently between his trees, hunting a hare; Varamyr was inside the owl, inside the hare, inside the trees. Deep below the frozen ground, earthworms burrowed blindly in the dark, and he was them as well. I am the wood, and everything that’s in it, he thought, exulting.
Prologue, ADWD
Afterward his "spirit," or soul, is eventually transferred into a body of wolf and he begins his second life. This event, and the process of skin-changing more generally, appears to involve projection or transfer of a soul from one body into another. The process of projecting or transferring souls to either animal vessels or the weirwoods is central to the magic of the Children of the Forest.
“Someone else was in the raven,” he told Lord Brynden, once he had returned to his own skin. “Some girl. I felt her.”
“A woman, of those who sing the song of earth,” his teacher said. “Long dead, yet a part of her remains, just as a part of you would remain in Summer if your boy’s flesh were to die upon the morrow. A shadow on the soul. She will not harm you.”
"Do all the birds have singers in them?"
“All,” Lord Brynden said.
Bran, ADWD
After death a "shadow on the soul" of the Singers remain in the crows. The soul of Orell is also described as living on in the body of his eagle after his death.
This process appears to take two forms: the soul can be temporarily projected from one body into another (e.g., as happens when Bran skin-changes into Hodor) or can be permanently transferred as is described in the separate examples above.
These transferred souls merge with their recipient, at least to some degree, and may decay over time:
"The wolf is part of you from that day on, and you’re part of him. Both of you will change.”
Other beasts were best left alone, the hunter had declared. Cats were vain and cruel, always ready to turn on you. Elk and deer were prey; wear their skins too long, and even the bravest man became a coward. Bears, boars, badgers, weasels … Haggon did not hold with such. “Some skins you never want to wear, boy. You won’t like what you’d become.” Birds were the worst, to hear him tell it. “Men were not meant to leave the earth. Spend too much time in the clouds and you never want to come back down again.
...
"They say you forget," Haggon had told him, a few weeks before his own death.
"When the man's flesh dies, his spirit lives on inside the beast, but every day his memory fades, and the beast becomes a little less a warg, a little more a wolf, until nothing of the man is left and only the beast remains."
Prologue, ADWD
Bran is provided with similar warnings about the danger of spending too much time in Summer's skin by Jojen.

2. shadow magic requires souls

As above the reader is repeatedly reminded throughout the series that "only death can pay for life." What is specifically being sacrificed, though? Is the magic being fueled by the blood of the sacrificed or by something else?
To answer this let us examine one of the most concrete example of magic in the series, the use or exchange of Stannis Baratheon's "life-fire" in order for Melisandre to manifest the shadows used to kill Renly Baratheon and Courtney Penrose.
Shadows only live when given birth by light, and the king's fires burn so low I dare not draw off any more to make another son. It might well kill him."
Melisandre moved closer.
"With another man, though... a man whose flames still burn hot and high... if you truly wish to serve your king's cause, come to my chamber one night. I could give you pleasure such as you have never known, and with your life-fire I could make..."
Davos, ASOS
According to this explanation, the cost of producing these shadow appears to have been part of his "life-fire," or soul. The shadow is specifically described as having the shape Stannis supporting this. Whether this applies to other types of magic — specifically blood magic or fire magic — is less clear but shadow magic very much appears to require the use of souls.
This type of exchange is also directly referenced in the story of the Night's King provided by Old Nan:
A woman was his downfall; a woman glimpsed from atop the Wall, with skin as white as the moon and eyes like blue stars. Fearing nothing, he chased her and caught her and loved her, though her skin was cold as ice, and when he gave his seed to her he gave his soul as well. (Credit to u/DigLost5791 for this reference.)
Bran, ASOS
Stannis is described by Davos afterward as follows:
The look of him was a shock. He seemed ten years older than the man that Davos had left at Storm’s End when he set sail for the Blackwater and the battle that would be their undoing. The king’s close-cropped beard was spiderwebbed with grey hairs, and he had dropped two stone or more of weight. He had never been a fleshy man, but now the bones moved beneath his skin like spears, fighting to cut free. Even his crown seemed too large for his head. His eyes were blue pits lost in deep hollows, and the shape of a skull could be seen beneath his face.
Davos, ASOS
Asha later describes Stannis as appearing life a "man with one foot in the grave."
What little flesh he’d carried on his tall, spare frame at Deepwood Motte had melted away during the march. The shape of his skull could be seen under his skin, and his jaw was clenched so hard Asha feared his teeth might shatter.
Asha, ADWD
These descriptions seem appropriate for a character that has lost part of their "life-fire" or soul.
Throughout the series Stannis is forced to make a series of increasingly difficult decisions. The most significant of these decisions regards the fate of his nephew, Eric Storm. Melisandre repeatedly urges him to "give [her] the boy," presumably to be burned, but is rebuffed by Stannis.
“I know the cost! Last night, gazing into that hearth, I saw things in the flames as well. I saw a king, a crown of fire on his brows, burning… burning, Davos. His own crown consumed his flesh and turned him into ash. Do you think I need Melisandre to tell me what that means? Or you?” The king moved, so his shadow fell upon King’s Landing.
"…what is the life of one bastard boy against a kingdom?”
“Everything,” said Davos, softly.
Davos, ASOS
Is the life of this bastard boy worth the lives of millions that would die if the Others break through the Wall? Making a deal with the devil and literally selling his soul in pursuit of some greater good seems very appropriate for his character, thematically. The description of his flesh turning to ash in this vision is representative also supports this interpretation.

3. blood and fire magic

As opposed to the creation of the shadows described above, we are also provided an example of so-called blood magic in the leech burning ritual.
“Give me the boy, Your Grace. It is the surer way. The better way. Give me the boy and I shall wake the stone dragon.”
...
Melisandre bowed her head stiffly, and said, “As my king commands.” Reaching up her left sleeve with her right hand, she flung a handful of powder into the brazier. The coals roared. As pale flames writhed atop them, the red woman retrieved the silver dish and brought it to the king. Davos watched her lift the lid. Beneath were three large black leeches, fat with blood. The boy’s blood, Davos knew. A king’s blood. Stannis stretched forth a hand, and his fingers closed around one of the leeches.
“Say the name,” Melisandre commanded.
Davos, ASOS
Following this ritual all of the mentioned individuals do die but do so as the part of separate conspiracies (e.g., Robb Stark is betrayed by the Freys and Boltons, Joffrey Baratheon by Littlefinger and the Tyrells, etc.) which were already in place. It is left intentionally ambiguous by the author but it does not appear that the ritual meaningfully contributed to their deaths.
The creation of the shadows is said by Melisandre to have required part of Stannis' "life-fire" or soul. Could it be that the leech burning ritual was unsuccessful because blood alone is not sufficient as a sacrifice?
These forms of magic are frequently described in the community as "shadow magic" and "blood magic." These concepts — "fire and blood" and "flame and shadow" — are highly associated with one another in the text:
“Shadow?" Davos felt his flesh prickling. "A shadow is a thing of darkness."
”You are more ignorant than a child, ser knight. There are no shadows in the dark. Shadows are the servants of light, the children of fire. The brightest flame casts the darkest shadows."
Davos, ACOK
I speculate that these are different expressions of the same concept; that all of these fall under the general umbrella of fire magic and share common principles. "Fire consumes and in the end there's nothing left."

4. dancing shadows

The tent was aglow with the light of braziers within. Through the blood-spattered sandsilk, she glimpsed shadows moving.
Mirri Maz Duur was dancing, and not alone.
...
No, Dany wanted to say, no, not that, you mustn’t, but when she opened her mouth, a long wail of pain escaped, and the sweat broke over her skin. What was wrong with them, couldn’t they see?
Inside the tent the shapes were dancing, circling the brazier and the bloody bath, dark against the sandsilk, and some did not look human. She glimpsed the shadow of a great wolf, and another like a man wreathed in flames.
“The Lamb Woman knows the secrets of the birthing bed,” Irri said. “She said so, I heard her.”
“Yes,” Doreah agreed, “I heard her too.”
No, she shouted, or perhaps she only thought it, for no whisper of sound escaped her lips. She was being carried. Her eyes opened to gaze up at a flat dead sky, black and bleak and starless. Please, no. The sound of Mirri Maz Duur’s voice grew louder, until it filled the world. The shapes! She screamed. The dancers!
Ser Jorah carried her inside the tent.
Daenerys, AGOT
The introduction of shadow magic in the series is provided above with Mirri Max Duur. Following this ritual Drogo is described as a lifeless husk:
"He seems to like the warmth, Princess," Ser Jorah said. "His eyes follow the sun, though he does not see it. He can walk after a fashion. He will go where you lead him, but no farther. He will eat if you put food in his mouth, drink if you dribble water on his lips."
Daenerys, AGOT
It has previously been speculated that Mirri "reverse skin-changed" Drogo (e.g., "strength of the mount go into the rider, strength of the beast go into the man."). The description provided is less consistent with a horse soul inhabiting a human body than it is with the complete or near-complete absence of a soul. It appears more likely in retrospect that Mirri sacrificed part of Drogo's soul to summon the shadows and likely as a means to kill Daenerys' unborn child.
“The stallion who mounts the world will burn no cities now. His khalasar shall trample no nations into dust."
Daenerys, AGOT

5. reanimation

If "only death can pay for life" and souls are used as a form of magical currency how does one explain the reanimation or resurrection process?
There is a paucity of information on the reanimation of the dead in the series. The resurrection of Beric Dondarrion, for example, appears to be different in fundamental ways from that of the wights or Cold Hands. (We are potentially given a point-of-view account of this process if you accept that Victarion died in ADWD.)
“Thoros, how many times have you brought me back now?”
The red priest bowed his head. “It is R’hllor who brings you back, my lord. The Lord of Light. I am only his instrument.”
“How many times?” Lord Beric insisted.
“Six,” Thoros said reluctantly.
“And each time is harder. You have grown reckless, my lord. Is death so very sweet?”
Arya, ASOS
There is no immediately identifiable magical cost for these "kisses of life," at least at first glance. Thoros later tells us that he breathed part of his "flames" or soul into Beric:
“That first time, his lordship had a hole right through him and blood in his mouth, I knew there was no hope. So when his poor torn chest stopped moving, I gave him the good god's own kiss to send him on his way. I filled my mouth with fire and breathed the flames inside him, down his throat to lungs and heart and soul. The last kiss it is called, and many a time I saw the old priests bestow it on the Lord's servants as they died." (Credit to u/watchersontheweb for providing this quote in the initial thread.)
Arya, ASOS
Thoros is also described as appearing very different after performing this ritual several times in a way that is not entirely dissimilar to the changes in Stannis’ appearance referenced above.
“Here’s the wizard, skinny squirrel. You’ll get your answers now.”
He pointed toward the fire, where Tom Sevenstrings stood talking to a tall thin man with oddments of old armor buckled on over his ratty pink robes. That can’t be Thoros of Myr. Arya remembered the red priest as fat, with a smooth face and a shiny bald head. This man had a droopy face and a full head of shaggy grey hair.
...
“Thoros of Myr. You used to shave your head.”
“To betoken a humble heart, but in truth my heart was vain. Besides, I lost my razor in the woods.” The priest slapped his belly. “I am less than I was, but more. A year in the wild will melt the flesh off a man. Would that I could find a tailor to take in my skin. I might look young again, and pretty maids would shower me with kisses.”
Arya, ASOS
Thoros attributes these changes to his renewed devotion to the Red God and spending "a year in the wild" as above although he is not exactly forthcoming with Arya about the resurrection process. It is also likely that he does not entirely understand what specifically is being exchanged here.
Later he describes Beric giving the "kiss of life" to the corpse of Catelyn Stark:
“The Freys slashed her throat from ear to ear. When we found her by the river she was three days dead. Harwin begged me to give her the kiss of life, but it had been too long. I would not do it, so Lord Beric put his lips to hers instead, and the flame of life passed from him to her. And… she rose. May the Lord of Light protect us. She rose.”
Brienne, AFFC
Notably, this process produces a reanimated Catelyn (a.k.a. Lady Stoneheart). The soul of Beric, or at least whatever is left of his soul at this point in the series, is consumed in order to resurrect Catelyn and not transferred.

6. cold shadows (wild speculation)

The terms "white shadows," "pale shadows," and "cold shadows" are repeated used to describe the Others. The Others are also highly associated with ghosts — the spirits or souls of the dead bound to the earth. (The forrest in which they are introduced is literally called the Haunted Forrest.)
The Others made no sound.
Will saw movement from the corner of his eye. Pale shapes gliding through the wood. He turned his head, glimpsed a white shadow in the darkness. Then it was gone. Branches stirred gently in the wind, scratching at one another with wooden fingers. Will opened his mouth to call down a warning, and the words seemed to freeze in his throat. Perhaps he was wrong. Perhaps it had only been a bird, a reflection on the snow, some trick of the moonlight. What had he seen, after all?
“Will, where are you?” Ser Waymar called up. “Can you see anything?” He was turning in a slow circle, suddenly wary, his sword in hand. He must have felt them, as Will felt them. There was nothing to see. “Answer me! Why is it so cold?” It was cold.
Shivering, Will clung more tightly to his perch. His face pressed hard against the trunk of the sentinel. He could feel the sweet, sticky sap on his cheek. A shadow emerged from the dark of the wood. It stood in front of Royce. Tall, it was, and gaunt and hard as old bones, with flesh pale as milk. Its armor seemed to change color as it moved; here it was white as new-fallen snow, there black as shadow, everywhere dappled with the deep grey-green of the trees. The patterns ran like moonlight on water with every step it took. Will heard the breath go out of Ser Waymar Royce in a long hiss. ...
The Other slid forward on silent feet. In its hand was a longsword like none that Will had ever seen. No human metal had gone into the forging of that blade. It was alive with moonlight, translucent, a shard of crystal so thin that it seemed almost to vanish when seen edge-on. There was a faint blue shimmer to the thing, a ghost-light that played around its edges, and somehow Will knew it was sharper than any razor.
Prologue, AGOT
This is again highly speculative but it seems reasonable to consider that these cold shadows are not "ice demons" or "ice zombies" but are in fact ghosts, the spirits or souls of men that are bound to the earth through magic by the Children of the Forest. (The textual evidence of the creation of the Others by the Children has previously been discussed at length in the community in separate posts.) "Fire consumes, but cold preserves."
This would explain several of the unusual characteristics of the Others described by Tormund:
“Tormund,” Jon said, as they watched four old women pull a cartful of children toward the gate, “tell me of our foe. I would know all there is to know of the Others.”
The wildling rubbed his mouth. “Not here,” he mumbled, “not this side o’ your Wall.” The old man glanced uneasily toward the trees in their white mantles. “They’re never far, you know. They won’t come out by day, not when that old sun’s shining, but don’t think that means they went away. Shadows never go away. Might be you don’t see them, but they’re always clinging to your heels.”
...
Tormund turned back.
"You know nothing. You killed a dead man, aye, I heard. Mance killed a hundred. A man can fight the dead, but when their masters come, when the white mists rise up… how do you fight a mist, crow? Shadows with teeth … air so cold it hurts to breathe, like a knife inside your chest … you do not know, you cannot know … can your sword cut cold?"
Jon, ADWD
A reasonable interpretation of this information is that the Others are present during the day, at least in some capacity, and are only able to assume corporeal form at night.
The Others are also described as "going lightly upon the snow" which would also supports the idea that they are ghosts:
“The white walkers go lightly on the snow,” the ranger said. “You’ll find no prints to mark their passage.”
Samwell, ASOS

7. conclusions

This highly speculative theory attempts to reconcile several seemingly disparate concepts in the series related to magic, namely the actual nature of magical sacrifice ("only death can pay for life") and shadows or shadow magic. More specifically, I suggest that souls are the primary magical currency and can be consumed using fire magic to summon shadows, create glamours, etc. I also speculate that similar processes took place during Mirri Maz Duur's shadow-binding ritual in AGOT and during the repeated resurrections of Berric Dondarrion in ASOS. I further suggest that the Others are ghosts, the spirits or souls of the dead bound to the earth.
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2024.05.13 22:37 C3PH4L0SP0R1N (spoilers extended) "A Shadow on the Soul"

This is an expansion of a recent post and also incorporates some ideas from this theory (by u/ndependent-Design17). Throughout the series the reader is repeatedly reminded that "only death can pay for life" — that magic, especially powerful magic, comes at great cost.
"Only death can pay for life, my lord. A great gift requires a great sacrifice.”
Davos, ASOS
This phrase or variations of this phrase are repeated by Melisandre, Mirri, etc. at various points throughout the series. That which follows is a highly speculative theory on the nature of the cost of magic in the series. Specifically, that souls are central to the exercise of magic and can be used as magic currency.

1. establishing the concept of the soul

Oh, to be sure, there is much we do not understand. The years pass in their hundreds and their thousands, and what does any man see of life but a few summers, a few winters? We look at mountains and call them eternal, and so they seem… but in the course of time, mountains rise and fall, rivers change their courses, stars fall from the sky, and great cities sink beneath the sea. Even gods die, we think. Everything changes.
Bran, AGOT
What happens after we die? Is there some part of us that lives on or do we simply cease to exist. These are fundamental questions that are essentially unanswerable in life but not in ASOIAF. The reader is given a point-of-view account of death in the prologue of ADWD. After unsuccessfully attempting to steal the body of Thistle, a wildling spearwife, Varamyr dies and briefly becomes a disembodied consciousness:
The white world turned and fell away. For a moment it was as if he were inside the weirwood, gazing out through carved red eyes as a dying man twitched feebly on the ground and a madwoman danced blind and bloody underneath the moon, weeping red tears and ripping at her clothes. Then both were gone and he was rising, melting, his spirit borne on some cold wind. He was in the snow and in the clouds, he was a sparrow, a squirrel, an oak. A horned owl flew silently between his trees, hunting a hare; Varamyr was inside the owl, inside the hare, inside the trees. Deep below the frozen ground, earthworms burrowed blindly in the dark, and he was them as well. I am the wood, and everything that’s in it, he thought, exulting.
Prologue, ADWD
Afterward his "spirit," or soul, is eventually transferred into a body of wolf and he begins his second life. This event, and the process of skin-changing more generally, appears to involve projection or transfer of a soul from one body into another. The process of projecting or transferring souls to either animal vessels or the weirwoods is central to the magic of the Children of the Forest.
“Someone else was in the raven,” he told Lord Brynden, once he had returned to his own skin. “Some girl. I felt her.”
“A woman, of those who sing the song of earth,” his teacher said. “Long dead, yet a part of her remains, just as a part of you would remain in Summer if your boy’s flesh were to die upon the morrow. A shadow on the soul. She will not harm you.”
"Do all the birds have singers in them?"
“All,” Lord Brynden said.
Bran, ADWD
After death a "shadow on the soul" of the Singers remain in the crows. The soul of Orell is also described as living on in the body of his eagle after his death.
This process appears to take two forms: the soul can be temporarily projected from one body into another (e.g., as happens when Bran skin-changes into Hodor) or can be permanently transferred as is described in the separate examples above.
These transferred souls merge with their recipient, at least to some degree, and may decay over time:
"The wolf is part of you from that day on, and you’re part of him. Both of you will change.”
Other beasts were best left alone, the hunter had declared. Cats were vain and cruel, always ready to turn on you. Elk and deer were prey; wear their skins too long, and even the bravest man became a coward. Bears, boars, badgers, weasels … Haggon did not hold with such. “Some skins you never want to wear, boy. You won’t like what you’d become.” Birds were the worst, to hear him tell it. “Men were not meant to leave the earth. Spend too much time in the clouds and you never want to come back down again.
...
"They say you forget," Haggon had told him, a few weeks before his own death.
"When the man's flesh dies, his spirit lives on inside the beast, but every day his memory fades, and the beast becomes a little less a warg, a little more a wolf, until nothing of the man is left and only the beast remains."
Prologue, ADWD
Bran is provided with similar warnings about the danger of spending too much time in Summer's skin by Jojen.

2. shadow magic requires souls

As above the reader is repeatedly reminded throughout the series that "only death can pay for life." What is specifically being sacrificed, though? Is the magic being fueled by the blood of the sacrificed or by something else?
To answer this let us examine one of the most concrete example of magic in the series, the use or exchange of Stannis Baratheon's "life-fire" in order for Melisandre to manifest the shadows used to kill Renly Baratheon and Courtney Penrose.
Shadows only live when given birth by light, and the king's fires burn so low I dare not draw off any more to make another son. It might well kill him."
Melisandre moved closer.
"With another man, though... a man whose flames still burn hot and high... if you truly wish to serve your king's cause, come to my chamber one night. I could give you pleasure such as you have never known, and with your life-fire I could make..."
Davos, ASOS
According to this explanation, the cost of producing these shadow appears to have been part of his "life-fire," or soul. The shadow is specifically described as having the shape Stannis supporting this. Whether this applies to other types of magic — specifically blood magic or fire magic — is less clear but shadow magic very much appears to require the use of souls.
This type of exchange is also directly referenced in the story of the Night's King provided by Old Nan:
A woman was his downfall; a woman glimpsed from atop the Wall, with skin as white as the moon and eyes like blue stars. Fearing nothing, he chased her and caught her and loved her, though her skin was cold as ice, and when he gave his seed to her he gave his soul as well. (Credit to u/DigLost5791 for this reference.)
Bran, ASOS
Stannis is described by Davos afterward as follows:
The look of him was a shock. He seemed ten years older than the man that Davos had left at Storm’s End when he set sail for the Blackwater and the battle that would be their undoing. The king’s close-cropped beard was spiderwebbed with grey hairs, and he had dropped two stone or more of weight. He had never been a fleshy man, but now the bones moved beneath his skin like spears, fighting to cut free. Even his crown seemed too large for his head. His eyes were blue pits lost in deep hollows, and the shape of a skull could be seen beneath his face.
Davos, ASOS
Asha later describes Stannis as appearing life a "man with one foot in the grave."
What little flesh he’d carried on his tall, spare frame at Deepwood Motte had melted away during the march. The shape of his skull could be seen under his skin, and his jaw was clenched so hard Asha feared his teeth might shatter.
Asha, ADWD
These descriptions seem appropriate for a character that has lost part of their "life-fire" or soul.
Throughout the series Stannis is forced to make a series of increasingly difficult decisions. The most significant of these decisions regards the fate of his nephew, Eric Storm. Melisandre repeatedly urges him to "give [her] the boy," presumably to be burned, but is rebuffed by Stannis.
“I know the cost! Last night, gazing into that hearth, I saw things in the flames as well. I saw a king, a crown of fire on his brows, burning… burning, Davos. His own crown consumed his flesh and turned him into ash. Do you think I need Melisandre to tell me what that means? Or you?” The king moved, so his shadow fell upon King’s Landing.
"…what is the life of one bastard boy against a kingdom?”
“Everything,” said Davos, softly.
Davos, ASOS
Is the life of this bastard boy worth the lives of millions that would die if the Others break through the Wall? Making a deal with the devil and literally selling his soul in pursuit of some greater good seems very appropriate for his character, thematically. The description of his flesh turning to ash in this vision is representative also supports this interpretation.

3. blood and fire magic

As opposed to the creation of the shadows described above, we are also provided an example of so-called blood magic in the leech burning ritual.
“Give me the boy, Your Grace. It is the surer way. The better way. Give me the boy and I shall wake the stone dragon.”
...
Melisandre bowed her head stiffly, and said, “As my king commands.” Reaching up her left sleeve with her right hand, she flung a handful of powder into the brazier. The coals roared. As pale flames writhed atop them, the red woman retrieved the silver dish and brought it to the king. Davos watched her lift the lid. Beneath were three large black leeches, fat with blood. The boy’s blood, Davos knew. A king’s blood. Stannis stretched forth a hand, and his fingers closed around one of the leeches.
“Say the name,” Melisandre commanded.
Davos, ASOS
Following this ritual all of the mentioned individuals do die but do so as the part of separate conspiracies (e.g., Robb Stark is betrayed by the Freys and Boltons, Joffrey Baratheon by Littlefinger and the Tyrells, etc.) which were already in place. It is left intentionally ambiguous by the author but it does not appear that the ritual meaningfully contributed to their deaths.
The creation of the shadows is said by Melisandre to have required part of Stannis' "life-fire" or soul. Could it be that the leech burning ritual was unsuccessful because blood alone is not sufficient as a sacrifice?
These forms of magic are frequently described in the community as "shadow magic" and "blood magic." These concepts — "fire and blood" and "flame and shadow" — are highly associated with one another in the text:
“Shadow?" Davos felt his flesh prickling. "A shadow is a thing of darkness."
”You are more ignorant than a child, ser knight. There are no shadows in the dark. Shadows are the servants of light, the children of fire. The brightest flame casts the darkest shadows."
Davos, ACOK
I speculate that these are different expressions of the same concept; that all of these fall under the general umbrella of fire magic and share common principles. "Fire consumes and in the end there's nothing left."

4. dancing shadows

The tent was aglow with the light of braziers within. Through the blood-spattered sandsilk, she glimpsed shadows moving.
Mirri Maz Duur was dancing, and not alone.
...
No, Dany wanted to say, no, not that, you mustn’t, but when she opened her mouth, a long wail of pain escaped, and the sweat broke over her skin. What was wrong with them, couldn’t they see?
Inside the tent the shapes were dancing, circling the brazier and the bloody bath, dark against the sandsilk, and some did not look human. She glimpsed the shadow of a great wolf, and another like a man wreathed in flames.
“The Lamb Woman knows the secrets of the birthing bed,” Irri said. “She said so, I heard her.”
“Yes,” Doreah agreed, “I heard her too.”
No, she shouted, or perhaps she only thought it, for no whisper of sound escaped her lips. She was being carried. Her eyes opened to gaze up at a flat dead sky, black and bleak and starless. Please, no. The sound of Mirri Maz Duur’s voice grew louder, until it filled the world. The shapes! She screamed. The dancers!
Ser Jorah carried her inside the tent.
Daenerys, AGOT
The introduction of shadow magic in the series is provided above with Mirri Max Duur. Following this ritual Drogo is described as a lifeless husk:
"He seems to like the warmth, Princess," Ser Jorah said. "His eyes follow the sun, though he does not see it. He can walk after a fashion. He will go where you lead him, but no farther. He will eat if you put food in his mouth, drink if you dribble water on his lips."
Daenerys, AGOT
It has previously been speculated that Mirri "reverse skin-changed" Drogo (e.g., "strength of the mount go into the rider, strength of the beast go into the man."). The description provided is less consistent with a horse soul inhabiting a human body than it is with the complete or near-complete absence of a soul. It appears more likely in retrospect that Mirri sacrificed part of Drogo's soul to summon the shadows and likely as a means to kill Daenerys' unborn child.
“The stallion who mounts the world will burn no cities now. His khalasar shall trample no nations into dust."
Daenerys, AGOT

5. reanimation

If "only death can pay for life" and souls are used as a form of magical currency how does one explain the reanimation or resurrection process?
There is a paucity of information on the reanimation of the dead in the series. The resurrection of Beric Dondarrion, for example, appears to be different in fundamental ways from that of the wights or Cold Hands. (We are potentially given a point-of-view account of this process if you accept that Victarion died in ADWD.)
“Thoros, how many times have you brought me back now?”
The red priest bowed his head. “It is R’hllor who brings you back, my lord. The Lord of Light. I am only his instrument.”
“How many times?” Lord Beric insisted.
“Six,” Thoros said reluctantly.
“And each time is harder. You have grown reckless, my lord. Is death so very sweet?”
Arya, ASOS
There is no immediately identifiable magical cost for these "kisses of life," at least at first glance. Thoros later tells us that he breathed part of his "flames" or soul into Beric:
“That first time, his lordship had a hole right through him and blood in his mouth, I knew there was no hope. So when his poor torn chest stopped moving, I gave him the good god's own kiss to send him on his way. I filled my mouth with fire and breathed the flames inside him, down his throat to lungs and heart and soul. The last kiss it is called, and many a time I saw the old priests bestow it on the Lord's servants as they died." (Credit to u/watchersontheweb for providing this quote in the initial thread.)
Arya, ASOS
Thoros is also described as appearing very different after performing this ritual several times in a way that is not entirely dissimilar to the changes in Stannis’ appearance referenced above.
“Here’s the wizard, skinny squirrel. You’ll get your answers now.”
He pointed toward the fire, where Tom Sevenstrings stood talking to a tall thin man with oddments of old armor buckled on over his ratty pink robes. That can’t be Thoros of Myr. Arya remembered the red priest as fat, with a smooth face and a shiny bald head. This man had a droopy face and a full head of shaggy grey hair.
...
“Thoros of Myr. You used to shave your head.”
“To betoken a humble heart, but in truth my heart was vain. Besides, I lost my razor in the woods.” The priest slapped his belly. “I am less than I was, but more. A year in the wild will melt the flesh off a man. Would that I could find a tailor to take in my skin. I might look young again, and pretty maids would shower me with kisses.”
Arya, ASOS
Thoros attributes these changes to his renewed devotion to the Red God and spending "a year in the wild" as above although he is not exactly forthcoming with Arya about the resurrection process. It is also likely that he does not entirely understand what specifically is being exchanged here.
Later he describes Beric giving the "kiss of life" to the corpse of Catelyn Stark:
“The Freys slashed her throat from ear to ear. When we found her by the river she was three days dead. Harwin begged me to give her the kiss of life, but it had been too long. I would not do it, so Lord Beric put his lips to hers instead, and the flame of life passed from him to her. And… she rose. May the Lord of Light protect us. She rose.”
Brienne, AFFC
Notably, this process produces a reanimated Catelyn (a.k.a. Lady Stoneheart). The soul of Beric, or at least whatever is left of his soul at this point in the series, is consumed in order to resurrect Catelyn and not transferred.

6. cold shadows (wild speculation)

The terms "white shadows," "pale shadows," and "cold shadows" are repeated used to describe the Others. The Others are also highly associated with ghosts — the spirits or souls of the dead bound to the earth. (The forrest in which they are introduced is literally called the Haunted Forrest.)
The Others made no sound.
Will saw movement from the corner of his eye. Pale shapes gliding through the wood. He turned his head, glimpsed a white shadow in the darkness. Then it was gone. Branches stirred gently in the wind, scratching at one another with wooden fingers. Will opened his mouth to call down a warning, and the words seemed to freeze in his throat. Perhaps he was wrong. Perhaps it had only been a bird, a reflection on the snow, some trick of the moonlight. What had he seen, after all?
“Will, where are you?” Ser Waymar called up. “Can you see anything?” He was turning in a slow circle, suddenly wary, his sword in hand. He must have felt them, as Will felt them. There was nothing to see. “Answer me! Why is it so cold?” It was cold.
Shivering, Will clung more tightly to his perch. His face pressed hard against the trunk of the sentinel. He could feel the sweet, sticky sap on his cheek. A shadow emerged from the dark of the wood. It stood in front of Royce. Tall, it was, and gaunt and hard as old bones, with flesh pale as milk. Its armor seemed to change color as it moved; here it was white as new-fallen snow, there black as shadow, everywhere dappled with the deep grey-green of the trees. The patterns ran like moonlight on water with every step it took. Will heard the breath go out of Ser Waymar Royce in a long hiss. ...
The Other slid forward on silent feet. In its hand was a longsword like none that Will had ever seen. No human metal had gone into the forging of that blade. It was alive with moonlight, translucent, a shard of crystal so thin that it seemed almost to vanish when seen edge-on. There was a faint blue shimmer to the thing, a ghost-light that played around its edges, and somehow Will knew it was sharper than any razor.
Prologue, AGOT
This is again highly speculative but it seems reasonable to consider that these cold shadows are not "ice demons" or "ice zombies" but are in fact ghosts, the spirits or souls of men that are bound to the earth through magic by the Children of the Forest. (The textual evidence of the creation of the Others by the Children is linked in a separate post here.) "Fire consumes, but cold preserves."
This would explain several of the unusual characteristics of the Others described by Tormund:
“Tormund,” Jon said, as they watched four old women pull a cartful of children toward the gate, “tell me of our foe. I would know all there is to know of the Others.”
The wildling rubbed his mouth. “Not here,” he mumbled, “not this side o’ your Wall.” The old man glanced uneasily toward the trees in their white mantles. “They’re never far, you know. They won’t come out by day, not when that old sun’s shining, but don’t think that means they went away. Shadows never go away. Might be you don’t see them, but they’re always clinging to your heels.”
...
Tormund turned back.
"You know nothing. You killed a dead man, aye, I heard. Mance killed a hundred. A man can fight the dead, but when their masters come, when the white mists rise up… how do you fight a mist, crow? Shadows with teeth … air so cold it hurts to breathe, like a knife inside your chest … you do not know, you cannot know … can your sword cut cold?"
Jon, ADWD
A reasonable interpretation of this information is that the Others are present during the day, at least in some capacity, and are only able to assume corporeal form at night.
The Others are also described as "going lightly upon the snow" which would also supports the idea that they are ghosts:
“The white walkers go lightly on the snow,” the ranger said. “You’ll find no prints to mark their passage.”
Samwell, ASOS

7. conclusions

This highly speculative theory attempts to reconcile several seemingly disparate concepts in the series related to magic, namely the actual nature of magical sacrifice ("only death can pay for life") and shadows or shadow magic. More specifically, I suggest that souls are the primary magical currency and can be consumed using fire magic to summon shadows, create glamours, etc. I also speculate that similar processes took place during Mirri Maz Duur's shadow-binding ritual in AGOT and during the repeated resurrections of Berric Dondarrion in ASOS. I further suggest that the Others are ghosts, the spirits or souls of the dead bound to the earth.
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2024.05.13 21:10 LooseProtection7929 Interested in the other characters

Interested in the other characters
This is going to be a bit of a scramble so I will be listing them lol.
  1. Throughout S1-S2 we see that Christi has not really been a target, she's just really stressed and traumatized. I wonder if it's intentional, like does the nature of town know that she's needed which is why she's left alone? Also they literally stayed in the same building as Smiley which I thought was INSANE even though he was dead, I just wouldn't trust it.
  2. The eyepatch lady, will she be written in more? I'm referring to the woman who got her bike stolen by jade. She wears an eyepatch now because of the "storm" causing the lightbulbs to burst in the colony house when they were trying to contact people.
  3. Tilly!!!! The old woman with an illness that seems very suspicious, she doesn't seem to bothered. She knew Fatima was pregnant and just seemed way to happy. Maybe she's just a ditzy elder or a mole!
  4. Jasmine (the creature) she was let in by Mr. Horny Dude. I wonder if she will make an appearance again, I think her character is very significant considering that her body was "warm to the touch" and she was actually talking to someone, the others seem trained or stuck in a loop.
  5. The background characters? 😂😂 Are they going to be addressed or what? There's too many people there and some randomly appear out of nowhere throughout the episode. I feel like that's a bit of a flaw tbh.
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2024.05.13 17:36 icallshogun Bridgebuilder - Chapter 88

Compromise
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“Alright, so uh...” Alex picked the last larva out of the bowl and ate it. A burst of umami and the unexpected taste of alcohol. Now that it had soaked up some of the spice from the broth, it was pretty good. Not particularly flavorful, but a better eating experience than he would expect from a grub. “Why did Eleya put two towns into a warship?”
“I do not know.” Carbon was less fussy about the variety of ingredients presented, eating without playing favorites. It was what she’d picked out when pressed to recommend something for him, and the speed of the devastation she was enacting on what had been a bowl nearly filled to the brim said that it was actually a personal favorite. “I had heard some suggesting converting retired Naval ships into housing, using a decommissioned carrier as a space station once it could be towed into a proper location. Swapping out launch bays for community towers is not a long bridge.”
“That seems...” It seemed desperate. But given what he’d seen, desperate was where they had been in the weeks following the disaster. Where they still were, even if things were improving.
Were things improving?
“Born out of desperation, yes.” She closed her eyes for a moment. “We did not have many colonies, we had not built so many stations. We only kept old ships for parts as another means of efficiency in our fleets. There had been hundreds of thousands in transit all over the Empire at the time. On their way home, on their way to relieve others who now no longer had a home to return to.”
“Yeah, that-” He shifted some of the shredded cabbage-potato around his bowl, trying to figure out what to say. The ‘that sucks’ he had stopped himself from blurting out felt offensively inadequate. “That does present a huge challenge. Did they end up bringing ships online for that?”
“Oh, we did everything. Any idea that was not completely untenable got the blue light. Repurposing ships, building sealed micro-arcologies on less habitable planets, mining out sufficiently large asteroids, asking the Confederation for help. I saw one proposal that suggested an inflatable space station. I thought it was a completely deranged idea.” She paused and picked up the bowl, slurping out some of the broth. “Then Humans arrive to bring aid, and do you know what the first structure they brought with them was?”
“An inflatable space station.” He saw that coming. Everyone - well, everyone who was sufficiently interested in space ships - would recognize the Redoubt class from that description alone. The very definition of form following function, each ship was little more than a central cylinder with hard points for a dozen habitat modules, and engines bolted to one end. Light, fast, cheap. Once deployed, you had a small space station that could be packed up when you were done. Old technology, sure, but they were everywhere, and the configuration options were extensive.
“Exactly. Forgive me, but I laughed. I knew the intent was to help, but having seen that proposal just weeks before...” She smiled and laughed despite having just apologized for such a thing.
“No I get it, it’s a goofy looking ship.” He could see the humor in the situation as well. Having gone from ‘this is too dangerous’ to ‘of course the Humans brought one’ was pretty funny. It put a smirk on his face and got him close to laughing along with her. “Probably used it as a command post until something heavier arrived. Kind of the primary use case for those in Search and Rescue, which is what I think the aid mission was first considered.”
“I was not involved with that aspect of recovery operations, but it stands to reason.” She set her utensils aside in a very specific way, sliding the bowl towards the end of the table. “I cannot tell you why they put all these people here. My first guess would be that it was a somewhat straightforward swap. The bays are very securely attached to the structure, but they are intended to be removed and replaced. It would be important that Eleya use her ship as a proof of concept.”
“Royals lead?” Seemed the logical jump.
Carbon nodded. “The Sword is recognized as her flagship. It is named after her. The Stronghold is based heavily on the Imperial Palace in Ama’o - may it rest. Taking in civilians, thousands of them, is hard proof that she is not simply hiding in here. Having the senate on board also brings with it the need for support staff, creating a symbiotic relationship. It is... a good compromise.”
“Okay, wait. How is The Sword of the Morning Light named after Eleya?” That legitimately confused him. “All I know is the -ya suffix is feminine.”
“Another name mauled by your automatic translation, though this time it is a portion of the Empress’ full formal titles.” She gave him a pointed look, a little smirk hiding on the side of her muzzle. “The strictest translation would be ‘the sword that is used to cut back the night,’ but that is even worse. If I were doing translations and feeling poetic, perhaps I would call it Dawnsword. It would convey the meaning of the name well enough, I think, without being verbose.”
“Then why do you call it the Sword like we do?” He figured just using the actual Tsla name would be easy enough if Dawnsword was a better translation.
“When in Rome.” Carbon snickered. “The Confederate systems I was working with before leaving for the Haultain were not set up to handle Tsla, and none of the Humans I spoke to recognized the name when I said it, so it became a force of habit.”
“Ah, that’d do it.” He’d ask about the actual name another time - it being one of Eleya’s titles felt like a natural transition to learning the rest of her titles, and he didn’t give a single damn about doing that right now.
“Alright, Eleya needs places to put people, and a place to put a temporary capital until the new location can be properly sorted. Two birds with one stone, I suppose. Wouldn’t staying at Schoen be more of the... leader thing to do?”
“If she were to stay here beyond the end of this endeavor, perhaps so. For now, having this ship - and its civilians - as a base of operations, in what even we consider to be one of the most secure solar systems, is reasonable. Most governing at that level has been done remotely since before the disaster, so it doesn’t impede anything.” She paused to sip her tea. “No one needs a senator to be on site anyway. Their presence traditionally just interferes with real work.”
That did get a laugh out of Alex. “The more things change.”
“The more they stay the same, yes?” She said with a grin.
“It is so. All right, mystery of the Dawnsword’s surprise towns is put to rest.” He stopped talking as Haraya came out of the woodwork to remove Carbon’s dishes, bustling away with even less stiffness than before. Why did he feel like he was forgetting something? “Heck. Did... Did anyone tell you we have an appointment to see a designer about our uh, our insignia?”
“No, but my communicator has been going off like I am being told something like that.” Carbon laughed and leaned back into her chair, fishing the slim black device from her jacket, the screen coming on.
Alex was not intentionally staring at his wife’s abdomen as he pushed the bowl away and set his chopsticks out like she had done. “Zenshen said it was this afternoon.”
“Mmh, afternoon. Another curious translation.” She teased him gently, flicking items off her screen one by one. “Neya says it is with Aetena Lyshen, at three. He has stated that his schedule is open today, and we may come in earlier if we so desire. Oh. How unexpected.”
Three o'clock, Tsla’o time, was probably like a solid five or six hours away. Plenty of time to have a deeply personal conversation about what Neya had told him. Or, perhaps, just go talk to the guy sooner. It wasn’t like he was putting it off... but he was putting it off for now. “What’s up?”
“Neya contacted the Colonel to make sure that Zenshen was attached to your detail properly - it turns out she was. You are both already on the artifact project, so it was just a slight shift of duties. The Empress went through appropriate channels, and Lehnan agrees with her decision.” She glanced up at him as she processed that. “I did not expect it to be so proper.”
“She is trying to turn over a new leaf, at least as far as you are concerned. Ensuring I have the help to not fuck things up, and doing it properly, could be a part of that.” He managed to make it sound like a statement, even though it was very much a question. Did his insistence that Eleya needed to start following through on her words actually sink in?
“It is possible. She will need to do more than fill out a little paperwork to prove herself.”
“Yeah, obviously. It’s just that you seemed surprised, so I was left with the impression that was unusual.”
Carbon stared down at the phone in her hands. “I do not know. From what I have seen, she will normally adhere to formal channels. But in the past, when it has come to dealings with me, she has not. Relied on her word being law to make things happen.”
Like making it legal to marry a Human. Changed who knows how much legal history with a stroke of a pen, to unfold some new machinations. “Zenshen made it sound like she was mostly there to act as a buffer between me and the military, keep me from offending anyone. Which strikes me as Eleya looking after her investment.”
“That is a reasonable assumption. I fear she has more intent sunk into you than we can see, so...” She also stopped talking when their waitress returned for Alex’s dishes, giving the young woman a warm smile. “Perhaps it really is.”
Alex, being privy to at least one plan that Carbon was unaware of, instantly did not want to comment on that. “Like you say, it lies with her to prove... herself good.”
“So it does.” Carbon smiled at his butchering of their turn of phrase before glancing down at her communicator again. “All right. Do you have any further plans for this morning?”
“Not a one. Want to push up the meeting with Lyshen? For that matter, do we have any plans tonight?”
“I do want to get that done. Designers can be particular. Best to get started sooner, and also have a meal that we can excuse ourselves for without appearing rude.” She smirked, displaying a little bit of the knowledge she had accumulated growing up in an elevated class, and started tapping away at the screen with both thumbs. “As for this evening, nothing that Neya has made me aware of.”
“Sounds good to me.” Left the evening open to actually have a sit down with Neya, perfect. “Oh shit, that reminds me. Neya wants us to bring her breakfast.”
“Does she. Very upset about not being able to come along?” The tone she had said that Carbon was familiar with Neya pretending to be put out by that, as did the barely hidden smile and tiny little snort of a laugh.
“Absolutely heartbroken.” He played along. “I had to promise that we’d get her something this morning and that you’d make breakfast again tomorrow.”
“Mh. We will see who is making breakfast when the time comes, but I will have something sent to her and we will proceed to our appointment.” She flipped through the applications on her phone and started typing something else out. “There.”
Carbon slipped the slim black screen back into her jacket and stood, stretching a little bit before walking over to the end of the bar, Haraya hustling out to meet them with a small device like the one Carbon had used to pay in the other little restaurant. She set her palm down on it, it processed for a moment and played a happy little tune.
“Thank you both, it was an honor to serve you.” Haraya bowed again now that the transaction was done.
“You did well, thank you.” Carbon said it in Tsla as she returned the bow, glancing over at Alex to ensure he was doing the same thing.
Sa meha.” He was. Paying attention to what Carbon was doing was getting him pretty far, as was having memorized how to say ‘thank you’ in Tsla.
They turned to leave, but Haraya spoke again before they could take a step. Quiet, and very timid. “May I ask you a question?”
Carbon didn’t even think about it as she looked back. “Of course.”
“I was mostly asking the prince, I am very sorry.” She looked just this side of terrified to be correcting a Royal.
“Oh yeah, shoot.” Alex caught himself speaking in English way too late. He pursed his lips and inhaled, just barely preventing himself from rolling his eyes at that little faux pas. Based on what Carbon had said about Haraya getting her information about how nobles work from movies, she would have interpreted that as aimed at her. He queued up a very quick reply. “Please do.
“After you left, last night.” She glanced over at the bartender, who was not paying them any attention at all. “Adana kept saying a strange word, I assume it to be Human - untranslatable.”
The irony of the translator not being able to digest something in English was not lost on Alex. What had he said to the kid?
Carbon, meanwhile, thought it was hilarious. “It is actually two words, a phrase. Oh, busted. In this case I believe it means that he got caught doing something he should not have been doing.” She laughed, looking up at Alex with a grin.
Haraya’s relief at how this turned out was immediately visible. She was still tense, but didn’t look like she might have just caught an execution. “Adana likes to play with the door controls. They beep and flash, and he can activate the viewscreen... And open the door. That is what he was doing when he found the prince in the hallway, when he should have been in bed. It is not an offensive term?”
Et.” Alex shook his head no. Score another point for knowing the basics.
“It is as he says. A harmless statement.” Carbon picked up the slack from Alex trying not to advertise that he spoke their language yet. She looked over to him again. “Perhaps used to tease a friend when they get caught out?”
He nodded as sagely as he could, a smirk barely suppressed as he caught that shade she was directing at him.
“His mother will be so glad. She has been concerned it was some kind of swearing, or something worse. I told her that the prince had been kind in my interaction with him, but she was-” Haraya exhaled sharply, wide brown eyes darting between them with a hint of that fear creeping back in. “She was afraid despite that.”
“Ah. If that does not settle her, please get in contact with me.” She pulled her communicator out, swiping along the screen for a moment and holding it out to the young woman. “We can arrange a meeting to clear anything up.”
She looked down at a swirling orange circle on Carbon’s phone, “I am not allowed to carry my- May I get it?”
“Of course.” Carbon smiled.
Alex lowered his voice as Haraya hustled away. “You sure giving her your number is a good idea?”
“No. But she is earnest and correct in her assessment of you.” She shook her head, her words quiet and sharp. “That boy learned a simple phrase, and his mother thinks it is a curse? I know why she did. I have met my own people. I think a gentle nudge may be in order to prevent it from being passed along.”
“When you say gentle nudge...”
She held a hand out to ease his concern. “I was thinking tea.”
Haraya returned, phone in hand and followed by an older, grumpy looking male dressed in the same natural fiber clothes save for a vibrant red scarf around his neck, voice raised as he tried to keep up with the excited teen. “You may not use your-”
Akai.” Alex gave what he assumed was a manager a needlessly cheery greeting with a little wave of his fingers. Oh man, he had loved being a shit to managers when he was younger, particularly if they were on a power trip. The opportunity hadn’t presented itself recently, and the urge to abuse the power that he allegedly had now was so tempting.
“Floor boss!” Carbon was a step ahead of him, greeting the gray male in their own language loud enough to draw his attention away from their waitress. “What is it that I may not use?”
Alex’s translator sat unused for several seconds as the sounds that guy made never made it past shocked guttural noises, the realization of who he’d been yelling in the general direction of sinking in. Haraya was too busy getting Carbon’s contact information to notice, or might have just been ignoring this exchange as hard as the bartender was.
“It was- My words- Did not for you.” He held up his hands and backed away.
“Ah, a simple misunderstanding?” Carbon offered him as the phone dinged complete, and she slipped it back into her jacket.
“Yes, of course.” Couldn’t get out of there fast enough.
Haraya bowed again as she hid her communicator, the same black rectangle that Carbon and Alex appeared to have. “Thank you. I hope I will not have to contact you, but that you have offered...”
“The prince has shown me who he is, what is in his heart... It will not do to have anyone doubting his character.” Carbon smiled and returned the bow.
Alex followed suit.
The fear in her eyes was gone, and if anything there was a little bit of admiration in there now as she thanked them again, quietly, before running off to whatever her next duty was.
They left the same way they had come in, through the main dining area. The crowd had shifted, some groups gone, new ones in their place. Conversations to fill boredom, meals he didn’t recognize being consumed at every pace conceivable. Once again, he was pretty sure this was his kind of joint.
It only took the gentlest of questions to get Carbon talking about what she’d been doing all morning as they walked back to the tram, riding all the way to the stop closest to the bow this time. Alex was only slightly familiar about what she was talking about - had something to do with preventative maintenance checks on one of the shuttles. It was interesting to find out they had developed a very similar system to what he was used to, checking in on functionality after so many hours of use.
He didn’t understand the majority of what she was describing, but he enjoyed listening to her talk about things with such enthusiasm.
Lyshen’s office was easily the furthest forward he had been on the ship yet. Took the elevator up to deck 20 and then just walked towards the bow for another five minutes. He must have been as close as one could get to the plate armor and whatever buffer they put between it and the habitable areas. It seemed almost entirely unused - he was sure some of the bulkheads had dust on them.
For Alex, there were two potential reasons for this. Aetena Lyshen preferred the solitude of the area. It was actually very quiet, even compared to the hall in front of their cabin. Or, he had pissed someone off and gotten banished to a spot as far away as possible.
Whichever option, Lyshen had put some work into his workspace. The door was ringed in a delicate gold filigree, a lacework of glittering geometric shapes with his name and title contained in a small banner above the door. They were meeting with a Royal Artisan.
Carbon tapped the door controls and it slides open almost instantly. The young woman with light red fur inside is dressed nearly as formally as they had been last night, though in muted grays. She bows. Not too deep. “Welcome, the Chief Artisan is preparing for your arrival. It should be just a few minutes.”
Chief Artisan. Well. Alex shot Carbon a sidelong glance as the receptionist turned and they followed her through a waiting room. A simple rectangular area, with a few upholstered chairs and benches scattered around. It was the most Human looking area he’d been in so far.
The far wall caught his eye as they walked through, windows looking into a workshop. Alex walked over, the large floor beyond housing a dozen or so Tsla’o, all seated at desks or workbenches, engrossed in whatever they were working on. Almost to the last, they were using hand tools.
Alex had never really seen craftsmen up close, doing their thing. In movies, or videos, sure. But not right here a few steps away, carefully engraving some sort of... Breastplate? Cuirass? Big chunk of metal that looked like it went over the chest.
“I believe that is yours.” Carbon stepped up next to him, a smirk in her voice as she leaned against his shoulder. “To go with your gauntlets, and the rest of the armor that is no doubt being fabricated.”
“What makes you say that?” How could she pick that up from looking at it for, what, three or four seconds?
“Consider the size.” She nodded at it, the artist working on it laying out a star near the shoulder. “Who else would wear such a piece?”
“Huh.” Compared to the guy who was doing the work, it wasn’t exactly massive, but he would need a lot of padding to wear that. This raised a few questions for him about the ethics of receiving such gifts. But he wasn’t a politician... Not as far as the Confederation was concerned. “I guess it is.”
They stood in silence and watched work progress. A woman in the back was carving something, perhaps a chair leg. One guy in the corner making hinges with an induction forge and a tiny, specialized anvil.
Before long, the secretary approached them again. “The Chief Artisan is prepared for you now. Please.” She gestured to the only door that went somewhere other than the corridor.
The Chief Artisan was sitting behind his desk, wearing an outfit similar to his receptionist, pale green eyes switching back and forth between two screens. The primary one was built into the desk, and had been jury rigged to a Human made laptop that sat on top of it, a rat’s nest of cables connecting the two. There was a holoprojector built into the desk, a jumble of images floating over it. He waved them in and gestured to the chairs across from him, “Please, sit.”
Alex was quick to oblige, glad to be just some guy for the moment. Carbon didn’t seem to mind either, taking the seat beside him without a word. Aetena was the first green Tsla’o Alex had seen, sort of a dark forest green with jade stripes visible on his neck. Apparently a bit of a rarity given how often he saw the other colors on the ship.
“I am sorry to keep you waiting, the connection to your Solanet has gone down. Despite that, I believe I have enough saved locally to begin the process.” Lyshen trailed off, lost between the two displays before closing a dozen images from the holo. He picked a pen up from the table and arranged the remaining pictures neatly, four different coats of arms that claimed to belong to a Sorenson. The red enamel barrel blurred into an arc as he spun the pen in his fingers, voice picking up speed as he locked on to Alex. “There is a large amount of heraldry available for your surname, do you know which coat of arms belongs to your particular family?”
There was a deer, a deer head, a rearing horse and a weird shaped star. Maybe it was a flower, or a drip of paint. They were all surrounded by leaves and the occasional knight’s helmet. Alex wasn’t sure what any of it meant and up until now, he’d never even thought about it. Knights and damsels in distress had never really been his thing. “Uh, can’t say that I do, no.”
“Mmh. What geographic region does your lineage trace back to? I could find no significant references to the Berkley Soresons on your Solanet.” He leaned back and the pen continued to trace crimson circles in his hand.
“The name comes from Europe, but the last couple of generations have lived in California, and America before that for who knows how long... We’re from a little bit of everywhere.” It was an inside joke with the family, which had ties back into nearly every corner of the globe at this point. Now they had a relative from somewhere way off the globe as well.
That puzzled Aetena, ears flicking as he turned back to the Human screen and picked over the keyboard slowly. He didn’t like what he found. “All of these originate from the continent of Europe. Do you happen to know which country?”
“No, I’m not sure. Had an uncle do the family tree thing once, but between the civil wars and The Collapse, the lineage got spotty about a hundred years ago.” Alex wasn’t really into the whole ancestry thing once you got outside of living relatives. It was novel, sure, but right now all he really wanted to do was ask if he could borrow that Solanet access when it came back up. The rest of the ship had access to the Confed’s milnet, which tightly restricted what he could be sending across it - he just wanted to download a couple of movies and some music, but milnet barely overlapped with the wider public network.
Lyshen set his hand down and the pen switched back and forth like a metronome, clicking on his desk at the end of each arc. He closed his eyes for a moment, jaw working silently before he closed the images and started pulling up new ones. “Perhaps we should move on to other aspects of this endeavor. As I have been told that you wish to integrate Tsla’o and Human cultures in your marriage, I had intended to blend the existing Tshalan sigil with some of the Sorenson family heraldry. I thought it would be best to use the gear-star surround from the Princess’ family crest as a base to build from. Something that is immediately familiar to Tsla’o, to put the viewer at ease. As it is indicative of starship commands, exploration and the outer colonies, it will solidly represent both of you and the way you met.”
Alex raised an eyebrow at Carbon, “sound reasonable?” He had no idea if it was or not, but it did sound like it. Also, if they were serious about integrating parts of Tsla’o and Human cultures, they needed to actually get on that.
“Yes. I agree, that would be a good place to start.”
“Thank you.” He busied himself bringing up a few more pictures, rough combinations of the ten point gear-star and the various items from the Sorenson crests, bits of decoration and detail work.
The door chimed behind them and Lyshen stopped with a sharp glare. He eyed the clock and sighed, a whispered curse under his breath before he set his pen down and straightened up. “Come.”
There was a soldier partially concealed behind the door, the rank plate on his uniform loaded with details, not that Alex could read them yet. He swept the room with a rifle as he entered, the short barrel ending up pointed just a hair under Alex’s sternum. A pair of soldiers took up positions on either side of the door and covered him, a few more lined up in the waiting room.
When he spoke, it was crisp and authoritative. “Please back away from the Human.”
 
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Never a dull moment on that ship.
Art pile: Carbon reference sheet. Art by Tyo_Dem
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2024.05.13 09:19 Big_Speaker9001 My FTM boyfriend might identify as genderfluid, please help :(

*REPOST BECAUSE OF A MISTAKE IN THE TITLE!*
I will refer to him as my boyfriend and use he/him pronouns per his request, as he doesn't want me to try anything new yet!
A couple of days ago, my boyfriend (FTM) came to me (Nonbinary AFAB) and talked about his struggles with his current gender identity. He told me how he feels like he is possibly beginning to feel okay identifying as a girl because it feels "comfortable and familiar to him" and "all he's ever known". He told me that the label "genderfluid" may fit him the best, but he is still very unsure of himself and what he feels best suits him. He has identified as a trans man since elementary school, and I have known him for nearly a decade. The entire time I've known him has been as a man, my online best friend, and eventually, my boyfriend. To clarify, he has never officially transitioned and is still pretty much in the closet to his and my parents, who see us as two "female best friends". I feel strange about him wanting to identify as a girl, as I've known him as a male the entire time we've known each other.
To have some insight into our relationship, we have been best friends for nearly a decade now, and have been dating for almost three years by now. We have also met up in real life plenty of times, and our families are even familiar with one another. All my siblings know him as my boyfriend, while my parents think he is my "female best friend". He is the most important person in my life, and I've been in love with him ever since we met. Our relationship is incredible. We always communicate with one another, support each other through everything, and he is genuinely my best friend! I truly believe that we will spend the rest of our lives together.
For the past three years, he's enjoyed shifting between being very masculine, and very feminine. (While still identifying as a man of course) Sometimes he has periods where he loves to wear skirts and cute clothes, even growing his hair longer. Then sometimes he has times when he wants to dress very masculine, also cutting his hair quite short. I think he looks super cute no matter what he wears or how he presents himself! As for our relationship and dynamic since we started dating, sorry if this sounds cringe but we've always seen ourselves as a "princess and knight". He is very introverted, overprotective, and always wants to spoil me with as much love and warmth as possible. He is much taller than me by the way which adds to this dynamic I suppose. Meanwhile, I am very extroverted and energetic, yet easily flustered by him, and love being cared for by him. I tend to act very "girly" and "feminine" around him, and I suppose due to our personalities we've naturally acquired a certain dynamic and certain roles in our relationship. Overall, I've always loved this dynamic between us and I feel like if it disappears, I will lose something special to me. When discussing his gender identity, he told me that he sometimes wishes he could be the "cute princess", which made me feel very guilty since I didn't realize. I wondered if I had been pushing these "roles" on him all along, but he assured me I didn't push anything and it just came naturally due to our personalities. He also told me he still enjoys being my "knight" but he wishes it could be switched around sometimes too. Also, random tidbit, but me and my boyfriend have always seen "boy and girl" couples in our favorite video games, shows, and anime, and always thought of those m/f couples as us. I guess that is a way to show how we've always thought of ourselves together.
When he came to me about possibly being genderfluid, I showed him nothing but support and love. I let him know if he ever wants me to test out any new pronouns on him, test out calling him my girlfriend, use new terms to call him attractive when he's identifying as a girl, or try anything new in bed, that I would be 100% happy to! All so we can explore what he may feel comfortable and happy with. He told me he is unsure about what he would want right now, but in the future, we can try out new things and see how it makes him feel. He told me what he's the most worried about right now is his gender identity, and that he feels like having a name for himself would help him a lot. (Even as a trans male, he hasn't had a name for himself for a long time) So I've been trying my best to help him with that as well, per his request. I've been giving my all to help him feel comfortable and accepted no matter what he wants to identify as, but in reality, he doesn't know that I am feeling very weird and a little afraid about this possible change.
I've always known him as a trans male, it's been almost a decade now. He's been in the closet, so I have to deadname him around our parents and use she/her pronouns, but I've never seen him as a woman. We've been dating for almost three years now and he's never let me touch him intimately in any of his private areas because it would make him too dysphoric, which I've always completely respected. Despite this, he always enjoys touching me, and you can probably assume the types of things we do and use to make him feel comfortable and masculine when it comes to being intimate. I've always done everything in my power to make him not feel dysphoric in any way, and seeing him possibly want to identify as a woman is completely new and strange to me. I don't think much will change between us if he does decide to begin identifying as a girl, as he's still my best friend and partner for life. I am just worried about how our dynamics may shift because of this change, and if I will be getting what I want out of the relationship. This is so weird to say, but I like feeling like there's a "big strong man" taking care of me. (Which is hilarious to say considering he is not like that at all anyway?) When I imagine losing that, losing my boyfriend in that way, I feel a pit in my stomach.
I've always been used to my boyfriend acting feminine and I tend to coddle him and spoil him with lots of love as well (especially lately since he's been going through a tough time) but I don't know why the fact that he may want to identify as a girl makes me feel so weird. In reality, all that's changing is the label, I know he will still act the same mostly as he's already quite feminine and still be my lovely partner. He told me that lately when he dresses up as a feminine guy it just doesn't feel right anymore and that he wants to tap more into his feminine side by identifying as a girl.
I'm going to be completely honest, even though I identify as bisexual, for some reason it would feel weird to see my boyfriend as a girl. This is going to start to sound irrational now, but deep down inside I fear that if he does decide to identify as genderfluid, he will decide he loves being a girl more, and may decide to stop being my boyfriend/trans altogether. This is going to worse, but I feel like I would probably be fine with him being genderfluid just because he could still be a man sometimes. I feel so guilty that I feel this way, I've romantically loved him as a man for almost a decade now (I've had a crush on him ever since we met all that time ago) and I have no idea how to approach these strange feelings I am having.
Here's something to put things more into perspective, my sibling came out as trans (first a trans girl, but recently they identified as pangender) to me about two years ago. I instantly supported her, and to this day I always do everything I can to make him feel comfortable with their identity. There was never a single doubt in my mind, and I never felt strange about it. I was simply happy and excited. But then when it comes to my partner and their new possible identity, I feel so strange and lost. Why must I feel this way? This isn't fair at all, I wish I could just be as excited and happy as I was for my sibling :(
I've been telling my boyfriend nonstop that these feelings of wanting to explore a new identity are nothing to be ashamed of, and that it's quite common for trans people to continue exploring new identities under the transgender umbrella. I've been telling him I'd be happy to help him through all of this, and he can always talk to me about all of this. I've been telling him that I'll love him no matter what, whether he's a girl or a boy. I've been telling him so many supportive, wonderful, incredible things. He tells me that he feels so much better after talking to me about all this and that he's really glad that I'm here for him. But...even though that's all true, I still feel so weird. Deep down inside, I don't want to lose my boyfriend. He's the love of my life, and I've always known him as a guy. I am so scared our roles will shift, and I won't be protected or coddled by him anymore. I've spent my entire life seeing him as a boy, and seeing him suddenly want to possibly identify as genderfluid opens up all sorts of anxieties for me. Why do I feel like I'll be losing something if he decides to start identifying as a girl? Like I'll be losing him.
But this is nothing I can tell him. He was already afraid that people would find it weird if he didn't identify as a man anymore, especially me. If I told him any of this, I know for a fact he would probably feel horrible, and probably even backpedal on this whole genderfluid thing, because he's always putting me first for some reason. I know how he is, he's a very insecure person and that's why I want to show him nothing but my love and support. If he knew I loved the current dynamic between us and didn't want it to change, it would crush him. If he knew I felt like I would be losing him if he identified as a girl, I don't know what he would do. I can't tell him any of this. I just want him to be happy with himself.
I'd like to clarify before saying this super crazy thing I'm about to say, but I am diagnosed with OCD and severe anxiety. Anyway, I am mainly afraid of falling out of love with him if things change too much. I know that's insanely severe, considering how in love I am with him. He means everything to me. I can't even put it into words. I've loved this man ever since I met him online almost a decade ago. That has never changed, no matter what. Change is so scary to me. I don't know what to do about any of this. Please, I would love some advice or a second opinion on everything. How should I go about this? I don't want to feel weird about his possible decision, on the outside it seems like I'm 100% supporting him, but on the inside, I am a jumbled mess. I don't want to lose my boyfriend.
Extra piece of info: I don't know if this adds to anything or maybe gives some insight into me as a person, but I've also had some small anxieties about him officially transitioning into a male in the past, and although I've always been excited, I was also afraid. I was afraid of the voice I've always known changing and becoming deeper, I was afraid that his face would look too different from the face I've always loved, etc. I was afraid of change once again.
Thank you so much to anyone who has read this. I can't talk to anyone else about this (as me and my boyfriend go to each other for everything lol)
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2024.05.13 05:35 MadameLee20 Need put downs and arguments about trying to end a war (Peace talks)

I'm writing a Fantasy story which does have some elements of Real Life in it. I'm having trouble with my latest chapter. My current Gen 7 heirless Princess Jane and her husband are in the fictional country of Afana to end the 72 war that is between SimNaition and Afana. They're going to be meeting with the family Avis, that been ruling the country for 73 years after the founder unalive the previous royal family (who might or might not have had someone escape).
In this Afana country the thoughts about women are generally the same as certain places in the Middle East.-down to even the dress styles women can wear there.
Now I need help in two regards:
  1. i need some put-downs Mr. Avis to say to Jane during their peace talks
  2. i need him to argue with some of what Jane's family wants done to end the war
here's some examples of Jane's family want done:
Oh and I will need Jane to have counter put-downs to what Mr. Avis says. Since I want Jane to actually be able to end the war and be able to "sign" the peace treaty.
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2024.05.13 02:22 Unhinged_Appricot21 “WOF’s lack of depth frustrates me”: 39 queries and ideas

Original post: https://www.reddit.com/WingsOfFire/s/cEBdWfjUbB
My last post criticized Tui’s shallow writing and lack of notable improvement throughout the series. This post is meant to be the constructive half of my criticism by posing 39 queries and ideas that would help make the world of Wings of Fire feel more substanced, varied, distinct, and nuanced.
Since I received comments on my previous post about fanfiction and its capacity to add depth to a franchise, feel free to steal any of these ideas and write about them. Or, if you’ve got any good ideas that you’re willing to share, comment them below. Let’s craft some stories worth telling.
  1. SeaWings hunt sharks solo as a part of their coming-of-age rite.
  2. RainWing names are chosen by the grandmother.
  3. RainWings value music. All dragonets are taught musical instruments as a necessary part of their curriculum.
  4. The IceWing kingdom is divided into territories each ruled by a lady. Dragons who have done an exceptional service to the crown may be awarded a territory.
  5. The IceWing Assembly is composed of the aforementioned territorial rulers. Membership is hereditary. The Assembly runs some of the day-to-day business of the kingdom by reviewing legislature, managing affairs of public interest, and advising the queen. However, they can also check the power of the queen by forming coalition against her and blocking or passing laws.
  6. An IceWing princess needs to do more than just kill her mother to gain the throne, or she may not keep it for long: she must also make allies and supporters within the Assembly. An unpopular queen may find it difficult to exercise her power with a reticent Assembly.
  7. NightWings like composing riddles and poems; it is a favored pastime. They would gather in groups and make games out of guessing riddles, constructing verse, and engaging in friendly competition.
  8. There are few to no trees on the island, a scarcity of animals, and the NightWings don’t trade; thus they have taken to molding clay tablets, carving into them with a stylus, and firing them in a kiln to harden. parchment is as rare and coveted as gold.
  9. NightWings were known historically for their metallurgy, so advanced that it seemed mystical to other tribes. Legends speak of their immunity to and mastery over fire, their ability to mold metals with their talons, and the magic associated with metalcraft.
  10. The NightWings invented Damascus steel, which allowed them to forge weapons of exceptional quality. Knowledge of its craft was kept a tribe secret, and the NightWings kept their monopoly on it for thousands of years until Darkstalker forced the NightWings to flee their homeland, and the art was forgotten.
  11. Why is the royal challenge so prevalent across tribes? Why can only females challenge? How did it begin in the first place?
  12. The MudWing royal family employs seniority succession, in which the throne is passed to the monarch’s younger sibling and not their children. Both male and female royalty can rule.
  13. SandWing inheritance is a type of matrilineal system in which a male’s possessions are handed to his sister’s sons.
  14. What is the currency of the dragon world? Is it based on a gold standard? Does each tribe employ its own currency, is there a universal currency, or is there both an international and local currency for each tribe?
  15. A NightWing is not given a name at birth; it is earned through their extended family and friends.
  16. MudWings forge coins with a hole in the center, allowing them to string ropes of coins along their necks.
  17. The HiveWing takeover of the LeafWings was subtle and gradual: the LeafWing queen remained in power as a puppet and the tribe did not formally integrate with the HiveWings, instead existing as a vassal state. Over time, they lost theirs rights and power.
  18. Firebreathing tribes consider the ability a divine gift and a powerful kind of magic. It allowed dragonkind to ascend their animal states, purge the scavengers, and become civilized peoples who cook their food, build advanced infrastructure, and produce all kinds of advanced technologies. Firebreathing dragons consider themselves inherently superior to non-firebreathers, blessed with a divine right. Fire is associated with truth, clarity, and expansion of the mind.
  19. When a LeafWing hatches, he is given a protective necklace made of silver, meant to ward evil spirits. He grows up within a cohort of same-sex dragonets who work and learn together. Adulthood is not marked by age, but by initiation, which can only occur when the right signs are read in the natural world. A dragon 100 years of age would still be considered a dragonet, and unable to choose a mate, if he has not been initiated.
  20. When a HiveWing hatches, he is presented to the family matriarch, who formally decides whether to accept him into the family.
  21. Tribeless dragons reject the kingdoms. Lone wolves or pack hunters, they roam the continent in small bands, sometimes coexisting with the tribes, sometimes coming into conflict, and often selling their services as messengers or mercenaries.
  22. Why are all the tribes so isolated? Why do they not engage in international trade?
  23. Trade guilds are made up of tribeless dragons who have found a lucrative business in trade. Since the tribes are largely xenophobic and like to avoid each other, these guilds act as an intermediary: they roam the continent, acquiring goods from one tribe and trading them with another. From this great influx of wealth emerged two or three trade empires, geographically insignificant but titans in money-making. They’ve become so powerful that they’re forcing the kingdoms to compete economically in new ways.
  24. Do dragons have access to banking institutions? Do they take out credit or write checks? Does an international banking service exist?
  25. How about a postage system? Domestic, international, or both? How would it work?
  26. SeaWings believe in reincarnation, and that deceased family members will hatch into the same family over and over. When a dragonet hatches, he is examined for any resemblance to a deceased family member, and may be named after said dragon.
  27. The RainWings’ most lucrative trade is in spices and herbs.
  28. Do dragons pay taxes?
  29. Why is there no form of gender or class stratification in any tribe besides HiveWings and SilkWings? If only females can become monarchs, does this matriarchal mindset extend anywhere else in society? Are families matrilineal? Do females have rights or privileges over males?
  30. On that note, why are there no gender roles either?
  31. What sorts of jobs exist with a kingdom? How would a carnivorous diet affect livelihood, economy, and society?
  32. Brittlescale is a condition which may arise due to undernourishment or malnutrition. Signs of the ailment include dull, malformed scales, scales that crack easily, and loose scales.
  33. Dueling is a common method of defending and proclaiming one’s strength and honor. Just as princesses challenge queens, common dragons will duel to prove their worth.
  34. How do dragons understand medicine and the body?
  35. SilkWing traditional garments are made of silk. Silk is one of the most precious and coveted products in the kingdom.
  36. Spiders feature heavily in SilkWings culture and mythology as craftsmen and weavers.
  37. SandWing venom is a neurotoxin. It can be drawn from the tail, distilled to increase its potency, applied to weapons, or made into a powder. Alternatively, it can be diluted into a drug used in anxiety medication and to treat insomnia.
  38. Do dragons modify their bodies? Do they wear piercings, tattoos, or body paint?
  39. How have dragons evolved over 2000 years? What biological, social, cultural, religious, political, economic, and technological advancements or regressions have taken place?
Edit: to the replies commenting that many of these have already been mentioned in the books and that I should’ve finished them: I should clarify that I was trying to prompt the sort of thinking that would lead to deeper worldbuilding. Instead, I have committed the same failure which I accused of Tui, that being to sketch and to prod but never to define or populate. I realize now that I should’ve selected fewer entries and expanded on them thoroughly to prove my point. I apologize.
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2024.05.12 19:39 Prof_Tickles Halloween 5: The Revenge of Michael Myers was so ambitious and they should’ve let Dominique Girard stick to his vision

Imo it’s such ambitious sequel because Halloween 5 tries to be a story about a cursed princess who overcomes her curse and tries to free her uncle of his. Allow me to try and explain why I believe that
In the original cut of the film before it was re-shot. Michael is awakened on a slab by a dark magician, or warlock, if you will. Dr. Death as he’s been dubbed by fans
Why that scene works where the re-shot one in the theatrical version doesn’t, is because Michael’s mask has elongated, almost classically attractive features. It’s not a coincidence. It’s also not a coincidence that he looks somewhat attractive and has classically handsome features without the mask. As if…he’s a prince…a cursed prince being awoken once more. That fits with the ideas, a hermit holding Michael hostage just doesn’t.
Like, pay attention to the Halloween costumes the characters are wearing: The Devil, Werwolf, Little Red Riding Hood, Jamie is a princess, Billy is a pirate, etc. Classical fairytale staples. These are deliberate choices. The film was shot in 1989. The costumes could’ve been Reagan, a Ghostbuster, a Star Wars character; but they weren’t. If it was a weird one off then you could argue it’s merely a coincidence, but where there’s smoke…there’s fire. And all of these motifs are little campfires.
When Loomis confronts Michael in the woods with the fog rolling and Michael partially concealed by trees, tell me that shot isn’t framed and set up like something out of a fantasy movie.
There’s a pov shot of Michael watching Jamie from across the street. The shot is of Jamie in the “castle” turret combing her hair(rapunzel), the castle is guarded by police(knights) until they’re called away. Jamie and her cop/knight attempt to rappel down the castle turret on a rope(rapunzel again), the castle has a booby trap(courtesy of Dr. Loomis), Jamie lays in a coffin like sleeping beauty while Michael stands over her, Jaime the princess tries to reach her uncle and manages to draw out a rare moment of vulnerability and regret before the evil reclaims him; and then the film ends with Michael in a dungeon.
And finally notice how there’s fire on some of the bars of the dungeon…as if they’re torches.
Now…does it succeed in this vision? Ehhh.
But it tried something unique for the franchise.
Now let’s be clear do I think Girard set out to make an exploitation film that is also at its core a fairytale?
Who’s to say?
I think it’s possible that he saw that the building they were using as the Myers house looked sort of like a castle and perhaps he thought something along the lines of “Hmmm maybe I could make do with what I have and take advantage of this and put a unique spin on the movie, while I’m at it.”
I’ve heard the Dr. Death scene was re-shot because the producers thought that Girard was making some bizzare choices and they wanted it to feel like a proper follow up to Halloween 4.
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2024.05.12 19:35 Prof_Tickles Halloween 5 was so ambitious and I wish they would’ve let Girard stick to his vision.

Imo it’s such ambitious sequel because Halloween 5 tries to be a story about a cursed princess who overcomes her curse and tries to free her uncle of his. Allow me to try and explain why I believe that
In the original cut of the film before it was re-shot. Michael is awakened on a slab by a dark magician, or warlock, if you will. Dr. Death as he’s been dubbed by fans
Why that scene works where the re-shot one in the theatrical version doesn’t, is because Michael’s mask has elongated, almost classically attractive features. It’s not a coincidence. It’s also not a coincidence that he looks somewhat attractive and has classically handsome features without the mask. As if…he’s a prince…a cursed prince being awoken once more. That fits with the ideas, a hermit holding Michael hostage just doesn’t.
Like, pay attention to the Halloween costumes the characters are wearing: The Devil, Werwolf, Little Red Riding Hood, Jamie is a princess, Billy is a pirate, etc. Classical fairytale staples. These are deliberate choices. The film was shot in 1989. The costumes could’ve been Reagan, a Ghostbuster, a Star Wars character; but they weren’t.
When Loomis confronts Michael in the woods with the fog rolling and Michael partially concealed by trees, tell me that shot isn’t framed and set up like something out of a fantasy movie.
There’s a pov shot of Michael watching Jamie from across the street. The shot is of Jamie in the “castle” turret combing her hair(rapunzel), the castle is guarded by police(knights) until they’re called away. Jamie and her cop/knight attempt to rappel down the castle turret on a rope(rapunzel again), the castle has a booby trap(courtesy of Dr. Loomis), Jamie lays in a coffin like sleeping beauty while Michael stands over her, Jaime the princess tries to reach her uncle and manages to draw out a rare moment of vulnerability and regret before the evil reclaims him; and then the film ends with Michael in a dungeon.
And finally notice how there’s fire on some of the bars of the dungeon…as if they’re torches.
Now…does it succeed in this vision? Ehhh.
But it tried something unique for the franchise.
Now let’s be clear do I think Girard set out to make an exploitation film that is also at its core a fairytale?
Who’s to say?
I think it’s possible that he saw that the building they were using as the Myers house looked sort of like a castle and perhaps he thought something along the lines of “Hmmm maybe I could make do with what I have and take advantage of this and put a unique spin on the movie, while I’m at it.”
I’ve heard the Dr. Death scene was re-shot because the producers thought that Girard was making some bizzare choices and they wanted it to feel like a proper follow up to Halloween 4.
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2024.05.12 18:15 zain_ahmed002 Why GlitchMimic is true and why GlitchAfton is flawed (Long post)

Why GlitchMimic is true and why GlitchAfton is flawed (Long post)

Intro

Just to preface, this isn't an attack at anyone. This is purely related to the theories themselves and not at any person.
Just thought that it was important to get that out of the way as I don't want anyone to feel attacked, I just want to show how a certain theory just cannot work.
I've recently joined Twitter (it's actually going well, better that what I expected as I've heard a lot of "bad" things about FNAF Twitter), and it's a platform where a lot more people believe in GlitchAfton. So this past week I've been collecting information about the topic, posting them as threads to then compile it into a "megathread" which I've just released this morning, you can check it out here (this post is just going to be a detailed version of that tweet).
I understand that the consensus here on Reddit is that GlitchMimic is the right answer, but I recently made a poll and surprisingly a lot of people still wanted me to make this post.

GlitchAfton

It's important to establish what the main GlitchAfton argument is, which is that Glitchtrap looks and behaves like Afton so therefore it should be Afton. Which is a fair and simple conclusion to make.
Going a little deeper, the argument is that Glitchtrap says "I always come back", appears as a golden Bonnie suit, Glitchtrap in AR having UCN voice lines, and other things such as The Entity being Glitchtrap.
This post will refute these main points, there of course will be some other points here and there that GlitchAftoners might use, but we'd be here all day refuting every single GlitchAfton point. So it's just better to counter the main ones and then that'll hopefully convince some that the little points are also wrong too.

Circuit boards

GlitchAftoners believe that the circuit boards used for the HW game are Afton's Springtrap boards. However, there's a multitude of issues with this.
When we look at the description of the boards, we see that their entire purpose is to "digitally recreate" performances and personalities
"Using proprietary technology developed by Fazbear Entertainment, our VR development teams were able to use vintage control board, almost like plug and play, digitally recreating performances and personalities from the past in an instant."
The "Proprietary tech" is the scanner, used to scan the boards into the games. We know this as the whole concept of AR and what Tape Girl says is that the boards were scanned using FE tech. So they used special FE tech to scan the circuit boards' contents into the game.
People often overlook "digitally recreating". This isn't a "ctrl+c and ctrl+v" thing. It's creating it again, but in a digital environment. So the personalities and performances from the animatronics are created again using the boards as that's the boards specialty.
This is exactly what the Mimic Line was created to do, they didn't want to ctrl+c ctrl+v the code from one Freddy Fazbear to another, they wanted to make something that would watch and "recreate" the actions and routines of the OG band so that they can use it in other FE locations. It's a way to avoid "a lot of coding"
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The Way Agony and Remnant work
This further solidifies the argument of Glitchtrap just being the Mimic. I made a Twitter Thread going into detail about how Remnant and Agony work, I strongly recommend that you take a look at it to fully understand this point.
To sum it up, assuming that Afton's boards were even used for the VR game and assuming that his Remnant/ agony was on these boards.. It still wouldn't result in GlitchAfton. Why?
Well, let's start with Remnant. As explained in the books, Remnant is the process of the intangible (memories) mixing with the tangible (object).
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Afton in TFC adds to this by saying how both the body (current soul host) and emotion (pain) are needed for the "soul" to "follow" and find its "eternal home"
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Some people try to hyper-examine the grammar and say how Afton is saying that ether or are required and both don't need to be present. If you look at the very next sentence and the overall scene as a whole you'll see that both are required as it's why Afton is cutting pieces of himself to put into the Funtime Amalgamation.
Also, you might've spotted that I said that the body is the "current soul host". The body acts as William's current soul host as he's still living and.. well.. The soul is obviously still in his body.
However, this changes when a soul moves from one possessed object to another. THIS DOESN'T MEAN THAT SOULS HAVE A CHOICE IN WHERE THEY CAN GO OR WHEN THEY CAN LEAVE. It just means that when the current soul host ceases to exist or is destroyed, the soul still follows the same procedure of the "host" being close to the object it's about to possess.
We see this in the Epilogues, where Andrew's current "soul host" is William, but when his body explodes and is destroyed, he possesses nearby objects as he still follows the same procedure as other remnant "cases".
What is this procedure?
Well, it's essentially:
(Memories + Emotion) + Current Soul Host + Object
The reason as to why I'm mentioning all of this is because Even if we assume that Afton's agony was on the boards used for HW his soul wouldn't end up in the game. Like I said, Remnant is the mixing of memories and emotions with the tangible. The memories and emotions latch onto tangible materials, like the metal or plastic in the boards and not the code.
It's WHY we see souls trapped in animatronics, bound by their coding. The MCIs can't enter the saferoom because of their coding. Elizabeth can't talk through Baby because of the coding, etc.
Souls don't mix with code, they mix with tangible things like materials. So EVEN IF Afton's boards were scanned, his soul would REMAIN on the boards and not in the game due to the boards being digitally scanned.
Agony
In the same twitter thread mentioned above, agony is also explained. "Agony" is actually an umbrella term for a range of negative emotions, like grief and rage. Each have their unique qualities.
Grief seems to "pour" the emotion itself along with a piece of that person's soul. The soul doesn't do much in terms of controlling things, it's more of the soul containing the memories of that person. We see this with Henry and the Charliebots:
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Rage, however, doesn't pour the soul into an object. It just pours the pure emotion. We see this with the Mimic and the Springtrap "anomaly" seen in In The Flesh, where they refer to the person as their "father" due to them having no memories from them nor do they have a piece of their soul.
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Afton, at no point, would be feeling grief. And if he did, his soul wouldn't do anything as shown in the Charliebots and as shown with the Remnant description, souls can't alter code. They can't change it nor can they form a super virus.
If Afton's rage infected the boards used, it wouldn't contain a piece of his soul. Taking us back to square one of "how is Glitchtrap like Afton", and the only other option given Hand Unit's description of the boards is that it's the Mimic.

The Entity, MXES, and how they're NOT Glitchtrap

Another GlitchAfton argument is that The Entity is Glitchtrap, and how that disproves GlitchMimic as the Entity is seen to work against the Mimic.
However, there's just a teeny tiny flaw with that.. The Entity being Glitchtrap is contradictory. Lemme explain.
Again, I've made a thread which explains it in more detail as well as some people replying to it with more info. The point is that when Cassie enters a wormhole thing in RUIN, we see the Entity's head consuming the screen to then reveal the PQ3 room
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The entire room wants to draw your attention to the Princess' sword struck through the PQ3 arcade machine
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This very clearly shows how the Entity is related to Glitchtrap's defeat, as I genuinely see no reason as to why Glitchtrap would proudly show it's victim that it lost.. Like what purpose does that serve?
The Entity also tries to kill us for using the mask for too long and when we try to deactivate the nodes, however the one responsible for giving us that mask to begin with was Glitchtrap.
At the end of HW2, we see that Glitchtrap is responsible for the "Helptrap" ending and how it sets up the events of Cassie receiving the mask (Linking Helptrap to the start of RUIN)
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So Glitchtrap being the Entity means that:
  1. Glitchtrap sets up the events for Cassie to receive the mask (more about this later)
  2. Glitchtrap tries to kill Cassie as the Entity for having the mask
Like there's no correlation between either of their goals, as Glitchtrap could have just killed her as Maskbot or something. WHY GIVE HER THE MASK TO THEN TAKE IT AWAY?
It's self-contradictory.

"I always come back" + UCN lines

This links with a Reddit post I made a couple months back, explaining how the Mimic was fed the in-universe indie games before being implemented into the HW game.
post explaining how the indie games are based on the ones we've played
We even get hints of this in Pressure, where the indie games are named as "fables" that Luca speculated to be "true", we even hear Nightmare BBs voiceline said by BB:
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Showing how to some degree, FE knew about UCN and the in-universe game had some of the same voicelines as the real UCN game we've played.
Showing how the Mimic would have been fed these games and how it would've known about these voicelines.

GlitchMimic

Now that GlitchAfton has been addressed and shown how it's not possible to be true, it's time to prove GlitchMimic and how certain things prove it.
Glitchtrap is a MASCOT COSTUME
"Mascot" is often referred to the Fazbear band, so it's not really something unique. But the fact that it's a costume and not an animatronic is unique. The costume idea really comes from the Mimic, as it's speciality is to fit inside the costumes as it becomes the end for it.
The whole Grimick ending of Ruin as well as the whole point of the Mimic Line and it's story is to show how it's linked with mascot costumes. Establishing a base connection between the Mimic and Glitchtrap
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Tales

It's best to start with *The Monty Within (*TMW) as it explains how Glitchtrap does the things it does. It explains how AI can infect the left side of the brain, and that it can take over the mind completely.
The yellow highlighting is awful ik lol
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We even see this happen with Kane, where the Mimic (as Monty) enters Kane's mind and slowly starts to take over his entire brain. Making its thoughts as Kane's thoughts, and gradually being able to move Kane's limbs and then kills Kane for going against his orders. Seems familiar, no?
In HW, we see that Glitchtrap's first victim was Jeremy, and that he sliced his face with the guillotine slicer. Some people theorise he sliced of the Vanni mask or whatever, that's a debate for another day. But even if he had the mask on, his face would have been severely injured. And the whole gist of the Jeremy sub-plot is that he dies from the slice and therefore it lead to a lawsuit.
Given TMW, and how it shows Kane being sliced in the head by a saw due to the Mimic taking control of his body, Jeremy also most likely died due to Glitchtrap forcing him to get sliced too due to Jeremy trying to go against Glitchtrap.
Glitchtrap also takes control of the mind just like the Mimic does in TMW, we see this with Vanessa and Gregory in GGY. It's able to control their movements and also their thoughts (more on this later)
However, there are a few who just deny that the Mimic is Monty from TMW despite the whole story outright showing how it is. But if you're in doubt, here's a Twitter thread explaining how.

GGY

Given that TMW explains Glitchtrap's abilities, GGY explains Glitchtrap's behaviour. In GGY, we see that Gregory is under the influence of Glitchtrap, the story takes place some time after the therapy tapes as the last therapist from SB was also murdered. Glitchtrap behaves extremely robotic at times, it's able to emulate a child's behaviour to an extent, but then says things that are extremely robotic:
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This matches Glitchtrap from the games, where in the AR emails, it searches things like "how to induce compliance in human subjects?"
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Afton's specific trait is that he's very good with his words, to the point where he can manipulate people with them. At no point would he ever say "human subjects" and "human being", as he was human himself once. This is quite clearly coming from something that isn't human, and given the nature of it's wording and lack of emotion, it's clear that this is coming from a robotic mind.
However, the AR emails also show how Vanessa tries to fight back at times by searching "help" and even in the SB therapy tapes, she's found a way to "lock away" Glitchtrap by "compartmentalising" it.
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This links back to TMW with Taylor's logic:
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Kane says how this "negative self talk" is the AI within, so this negative talk would be Glitchtrap and in Kane's case, the Mimic. Where it being "sidelined" results in that person becoming more free and better. It's exactly what we see with Vanessa, where she's sidelined him by locking it away.
Glitchtrap in GGY also observes a person for a really really long time, which is called out as not being something normal as well as being something uncomfortable:
Greg returned the wave. He smiled. Then he cocked his head and studied Tony for several seconds. For some reason, Greg’s scrutiny made Tony want to squirm
Again, this isn't something Afton would do as he's discrete in his manipulation, not outright showing it and being the most non-human you can ever be.
Also, look at the wording. "cocked his head and studied", it's the exact same wording used for Tiger Rock, further linking the Mimic to Glitchtrap
"Tiger Rock said, cocking his head and studying Kai like he was the most fascinating boy in the world"
Tiger rock also says how it loves learning languages, even saying "if it exists, I can learn it", which explains the PQ1 ending and also the wall code.
GGY also explains how Glitchtrap was coded into the animatronics themselves, which links back to the therapy tapes where Patient 46/GGY moved the Glitchtrap virus from the Pizzaplex's systems to the animatronics themselves which "cascades" into a bunch of subroutines that do the same thing the original virus does.
The funny thing with Tales is that the Pizzaplex-related stories all link together via attractions, it's how we can make a timeline of it. Link to the web of Tales is here, we can see that GGY has a lot of the same attractions as stories like Nexie, Tiger Rock, and The Storyteller.
This makes it abundantly clear that GGY takes place in the same timeline as The Storyteller, and in The Storyteller we see that the Mimic was in control of the Pizzaplex.
For both Glitchtrap and the Mimic to be in control of the pizzaplex, with the exact same abilities, the exact same "control", and in the exact same timeline. It just makes it clear that they are the exact same entity.
Otherwise, it'd mean that there'd be some sort of AI war, where each are vying for control. But there's not even an ounce of any sort of reference or implication of it. It JUST DIDN'T HAPPEN.

help"i" and HW2

This, I feel, is the most direct GlitchMimic can ever be.
Helpi (with an "i") is seen in both HW2 and RUIN. In Ruin it's shown that Helpi is infected by the Mimic, and Helpi comes from the VANNI mask showing that the Mimic also comes from the Vanni mask. And we KNOW it's the Mimic as it quite literally mimics things.
In RUIN, we see that the Mimic (in Helpi) is responsible for injecting an occipital transmitter. This, obviously, is connected to the Occipital lobe which is responsible for forming a visual image from the light rays our eyes pick up.
This is important as it explains how we can walk through glitched objects in RUIN. The objects were never there to begin with, they're made up by the Mimic manipulating the image the occipital lobe forms to make it look like there's objects there when there actually isn't.
why?
Well it's because using the mask allows us to "walk through" these non-existent objects. It makes Cassie feel like she needs to wear the mask, as the only way to free the Mimic is through the mask as she needs to deactivate the nodes.
The whole point of RUIN as a whole is that Cassie is tricked by the Mimic into wearing the mask to free it, and it does this by the help of Helpi and therefore showing how they're linked.
Helpi also makes an appearance in HW2 seen here. And YES, this is Helpi with an "i" and not with a "y". It's the SAME Helpi the Mimic has control over.
This links with the HELPtrap ending, where the player (Cassie's dad) becomes Maskbot and therefore gives Cassie the mask. As I've shown earlier in this post, the entity behind the HelpTrap ending is Glitchtrap.
Linking Helpi to Glitchtrap, Helpi to the Mimic, and therefore Mimic to Glitchtrap.
Another thing to note is that the Mimic was connected to the Pizzaplex's systems during SB, we know this as it plays a scene from SBs camera feeds in RUIN, where Cassie says "Hey, that's my mask".
It also explains why the Mimic knows that Gregory said "I-I'm Gregory".. Nobody else would have known or seen that.. Just Glamrock Freddy.
Which leaves the only explanation of the Mimic being coded into Glamrock Freddy for it to have heard Gregory say that as well as the Mimic being in the Pizzaplex's systems due to the camera feed seen in RUIN.
Linking with the GGY point from above.

Conclusion

Well, thank you for coming this far, it just honestly makes sense for Glitchtrap to be the Mimic and not Afton.
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2024.05.12 17:59 IseKai_MC Natsumi Without Costume - DAL vol 9 cover + some illustrations review

Natsumi Without Costume - DAL vol 9 cover + some illustrations review
Hello guys, since I read Date a Live, I realized that the novel has a certain quality that even more popular and cult novels do not have and that seems to go unnoticed by the fandom, the covers. Yes, the covers are spectacular and break away from the standard of most LNs, there is not just fanservice, there is not just a character striking a cool pose, we actually have covers with a certain visual narrative, whether a connection with the highlighted spirit itself or with the story itself and I will be pleased to show this to you, here are the rules:
  • Due to the oriental reading sense being left -> right of the page, the details will be presented respecting this sense.
  • A picture is worth a thousand words, and DAL is a novel so the images are even more valuable, the idea here is to analyze the covers and relevant illustrations to understand hints, references, foreshadowing, and contexts.
  • Pure fanservice images will not be taken into consideration (at least most of them). No, I’m not the type of otaku who says things like: “fanservice is unnecessary, objectification of women, too gratuitous and empty, it only serves to “excite the viewer””, the last one is even plausible and I understand those who think like this, but all the others are nothing more than cheap demagoguery. They will not be taken into consideration because in addition to not actually adding to the plot most of them are posted to exhaustion on this reddit.
  • Major spoilers will be avoided, at least directly.
{LN 9 cover}
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  • Change Natsumi
So that the reader has no doubts that the highlighted girl is Natsumi, the first element is precisely the subtitle and the spirit info.
The title also refers to Natsumi’s power, which, as in the previous volume, will be an important point in the plot.
  • Spirit Info
Same sephirot, same codename, same angel, these things have not changed.
  • The title
The composition of the characters is the same as the previous volume with one exception, the character corresponding to “A” is next to the characters corresponding to “Live” on the right end of the cover, while the characters corresponding to “Date” are on the left end of the cover.
  • The Highlighted Girl.
Finally, gentlemen, this is the real Natsumi, the color palette remains the same, the theme of the astral dress too, but they are almost completely different people, goodbye adult beauty, the sensual curves also went away, another element that draws attention to her is the hair that is very disheveled and has a more opaque color, that naturally sensual face also went and she is not happy to be seen and judged by the reader (although her expression is funny).
It is really a shock that such a beautiful and sensual woman is actually this little girl but there were hints all the time that this was not the real appearance, she had a childish personality from the beginning and showed certain insecurity all the time.
And speaking of insecurity, let’s go to the main point of the cover, the astral dress that despite the changes and the lack of symmetry in some places (clear indication of imbalance), continues with the same colors and the same theme.
Let’s compare her astral dress with Yoshino’s, which in the volume 2 review I say is the most discreet, this is due to the colors that are less flashy, the hood that covers a great part of her face and her blue hair and her clothes have no sexual appeal at all.
Totally different from Natsumi, her astral dress has a lot of orange, a color that is naturally flashy that aligned with her green hair forms a combination that would make it difficult to ignore, the hat does not cover any of her hair and much less of the face, in fact there is a lot of green and orange in the hat too. Her clothes show a lot of skin. Although Natsumi is clearly a person with a great inferiority complex, it is clear that even in her real form she wants to draw attention, she wants to be noticed.
  • Background
The background has abandoned the transversal strip, this time it is a large horizontal strip (larger than the previous ones we saw in volumes 1, 6 and 7).
The change is due because the girl is the real Natsumi and due to us knowing this the fantasy of the previous volume lost its usefulness, forcing Natsumi to also lose her duality.
As for the scenario, it is a simple bluish sky, but, what is that? There is more than one and they seem to be… …lollipops? Ara, ara, more hints and you know very well which character is related to lollipops.
{Illustration 3}
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Shiori Itsuka return for this volume and in her left hand you can see some brushes, she is saying: “This is definitely you, Natsumi.” Natsumi seems to be astounded to see her own reflection.
Just an indication that a good part of the volume will focus on helping Natsumi overcome her inferiority complex.
{Illustration 4}
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Clearly, Kotori is making a reference to the cover of volume 4 and much of what I said there applies here, especially regarding her self-confidence.
The commander of Fraxinus and sister (or girlfriend?) of Shido, Kotori Itsuka is saying her tredemarked phrase:
“Let’s start the war.”
Kotori is with her limited astral dress, although it matches very well with her commander uniform.
Since the previous volume, the visual narrative makes a kind of correction between Kotori and Natsumi and probably this is due to two reasons. First point, Kotori is very confident while Natsumi tends to always be belittling herself, the second point is that Natsumi will disguise herself as Kotori at a moment in this volume and will mention that imitating Kotori “It’s hard because she is such a confident girl who wears twin tale.”
{Table of contents}
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As usual, there is the table of contents that follows the pattern of being a punch in the face.
Here we have the Ratatoskr analyst - Reine Murasame, in casual clothes and glasses and without footwear (probably she is inside a house) saying:
“…Mother, right?”
I will just say that mother has everything to do with some characters in this work and this includes Natsumi, let’s go straight to the narration of volume 9.
{Mono IIlustration 3}
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Natsumi is in trouble.
To contextualize the scene, Natsumi had just used Haniel to transform Ellen and her troop into children, here in the novel it is detailed how much this affects the fighting capacity but Ellen is THE STRONGEST WIZARD IN THE WORLD, even being a child she manages to defeat the distracted Natsumi, a complete spirit in a single blow.
Natsumi’s luck is that Ellen missed the vital points. Ellen returns to normal, suggests taking Natsumi alive but quartered, she does not want to give Natsumi a chance to use Haniel again.
But soon Shido’s children arrive and save Natsumi, But if Ellen was there how did some loli spirits with limited powers manage? Simple, this time they have a new reinforcement, they have Miku, the definitive support, thanks to her the girls manage to overcome the limitation of childhood.
But what makes Miku the MVP of this fight is that she uses her ability to control Ellen’s allies thus creating the perfect opportunity for them to escape from there with Natsumi.
And you there calling Miku the “weakest spirit”, how many spirits can be proud of having “defeated” THE STRONGEST WIZARD IN THE WORLD?
{Mono Illustration 4}
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You are not on waifuswithguns.
After returning to normal size, Origami noticed that there are suspicious people wanting to enter her apartment. There is a small chase until finally these people surround Origami, she receives a call from Ellen, THE STRONGEST WIZARD IN THE WORLD wants Sergeant Major Tobiichi to be the new “Adeptus 2”, at first Origami refuses to enter “an organization that would harm Shido” but Miss Matthers knows how to negotiate:
“What a pity, if they catch you now you will lose the chance to have a balanced fight against the spirits.”
Ellen promised CR-units of the highest quality and technology from DEM and also promised a detailed report on various spiritual readings from a certain event in Tenguu-Nankou five years ago.
An irresistible offer.
“Welcome to DEM industries”
It is worth highlighting something important in the illustration, now Origami has thighs.
{Mono Illustration 5}
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I really hope this massage doesn’t have a happy ending.
The reason this illustration is here is that a different approach was chosen, instead of a simple date with Shido Natsumi will have her princess day, skincare and massage with Miku, hair salon with the Yamai sisters, trying on clothes, in this last one not only Tohka and Yoshino are present in the scene, the previous girls were also there and finally, makeup with Shiori, a-ha, so that’s why that colored illustration was present in the preface.
The idea here is to show Natsumi that she can change, become beautiful, without needing Haniel.
Natsumi looks at herself in the mirror and thinks that this girl she is seeing now is beautiful.
{Mono illustration 8}
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I really don’t like this scene but here in the novel it yielded a good interaction.
In the context of the scene, as Natsumi managed to escape from the underground installation of Ratatoskr Shido had nothing more to do there and decided to go home, arriving there the door was already open, he did not come face to face with a thief, it was something, worse it was Ellen.
Ellen begins to make some indirect threats and emanate an intimidating aura, in a way this scene shows that Miss Matthers is not a common human.
THE STRONGEST WIZARD IN THE WORLD states that Shido and the spirits live in peace not because of Ratatoskr but because of her and Ike’s whim and offers a truce, just deliver Witch and she will ensure that the other spirits continue to live peacefully and calls this “simple math.”
Shido says a catchphrase that is absolute cinema; “I’ve always been bad at math.” The problem is that Ellen threatens Shido with the laser blade and retorts with another cringe phrase that I refuse to write here.
{Mono Illustration 9}
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A beautiful illustration of Natsumi using a Haniel ability.
Kaleidoscope is a very comprehensive ability, it allows to change the shape of the target, whether it is alive or not and if used in Haniel itself can temporarily transform it into another angel, here she transforms Haniel into Sandalphon, now I understand why on the cover of volume 7 the sky was night.
After Shido runs all over Tenguu to call Natsumi because there is an imminent danger threatening the city, finally the spirit codenamed witch is touched by the concern, she was disguised as a lollipop all the time with Shido and decides to help destroy the artificial satellite loaded with bombs, first she transforms it into a huge teddy and then gives the last blow with Halvanhelev.
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But there was still a third Humpty Dumpty.
30 minutes later another ship with explosives falls in Tenguu, this time everyone is tired and Natsumi sealed and now what?
Suddenly a wizard from DEM appears, despite seeming to be Ellen it was actually Origami Tobiichi, which leaves Shido quite upset.
In general, high-level wizards receive customized equipment, with colors that match their user, but Origami’s Mordred resembles in color and design with Ellen’s Pendragon.
-Mini review of the volume.
This volume is fun but less than the previous one, this is due to the beginning being quite complicated with those loli jokes that, are not bad, just do not have the same fun after the first time.
However, when Natsumi is saved there is a clear improvement in the reading rhythm, this occurs because Tachibana himself says that he enjoys writing Natsumi and consequently it is fun to read Natsumi, she is so negative about herself that it is sad and funny at the same time.
The fact that we do not have a date with Natsumi contributes to seeing more interactions of her with the other spirits, in addition to a great reuse of characters this also builds a great scene pages later where Natsumi disguises herself as Kotori to test the other girls, at the moment she speaks ill of Natsumi, Tohka and the others at first get angry “I really enjoyed being with Natsumi.” And then they start to find Kotori strange.
I really don’t like the scene of Shido and Ellen, the only purpose of her being there is that Natsumi disguised herself as a lollipop and is in Shido’s pocket, Ellen’s proposal was precisely about delivering Natsumi, which obviously Shido would never do.
The biggest reason I don’t like this scene is that there are better things that Ellen should be doing, there is a subplot of the conspiracy in DEM, some people are dissatisfied with Sir Isaac’s actions and plan to kill him by sweeping an entire city off the map as an alibi, an unfortunate catastrophe where, coincidentally, the CEO of the world’s largest company was a victim.
That’s it, the volume ends with a plot twist, Origami is now Adeptus 2 of DEM, the author mentions in the afterword that in the next volume the story will move a little and what I can anticipate is that many plot twists will come.
Previous Reviews.
-volume 1 - The color of the Night.
- volume 2 - Yoshinon and the Rain.
- volume 3 - The smile of Kurumi.
- volume 4 - Sister or Girlfriend?
- volume 5 - Yamais
- volume 6 - Lilies, she likes
- volume 7 - The Dark of the Night.
- volume 8 - What do people do on Halloween?
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2024.05.12 13:17 thepinkmushroom Dealing with a sister that can't stand me

My sister is about 2 years older than me. She is also the oldest child in the family. Since day 1 we've not had a "loving" relationship. It was horrible during teenage years, she never shared things with me including food and toys, and would also exclude me from hanging out with her and my other siblings; this included but is not limited to not allowing me to join the rest of them to watch movies, listen to music (and even then, we could only listen to music she liked), play in the backyard with them, chat and gossip with them, eat junk food and snacks with them etc. She would also lock me outside of the house so that I couldn't hang out with the rest of my siblings while they had fun inside the house.
Fast forward I'm now in my mid-20s and her behaviours have died down considerably but are still present. She gets mad at me if I ask her questions, or too many questions. Innocent questions like 'oh what did you do today?', 'your earrings are nice where are they from?', 'what perfume are you wearing?'. I also can't call her out on her behaviour because she gets mad at me for daring to talk bad about her. A side thing; she always counts the amount of food I eat and comments on it "oh that's ONLY your second slice of cake" she sneers. I always snap back telling her she's being so weird, I am a whole entire human being and can do what I want, and she does NOT like that. She spent a good 20 years bullying me for my weight, calling me a dog, a pig, an elephant, a cow, a rhino and a water buffalo. Mind you when she put on 10kg (20lb) this past year and complained about it, I never once brought up anything negative (even though it was KILLING me, and I wanted to so bad, but I knew how much it hurt me when she did it to me, so I didn't want to do it to her), and tried to positively encourage her to be gentle with herself and helped her look for ways to lose the excess weight.
The thing that triggered me to make this post is we were invited to a friend's house for dinner, my sister had brought a cake (we live separately since she got married a few years ago). I asked her what cake she made and after a LONG pause and stare, very condescendingly replied "coffee cake". I then asked what the icing was and she again sneers at me and snaps "coffee obviously, why are you asking me these stupid questions?" I didn't speak to her for the rest of the night, but she would come up and talk to me whenever she wanted to gossip, but would get mad if I wanted to go up and talk to her. I'm so confused. She also gets mad whenever I talk to another person enthusiastically, maybe we share a hobby or like the same things, and she'll get mad at me and ask why I have to be so excited and to stop being so lame.
I don't understand this and honestly I'm very over it. She's almost 30 and acts this way still. Never in front of her husband though, she wants to seem like a princess in front of him and God forbid I make a light-hearted joke about her in front of him, she gets PISSED at me and won't talk to me.
So what do I do? I don't want to try and fix her because that's not my place and she's a grown woman, it's not my job to do that. I just want to protect my peace. Advice?
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2024.05.12 13:16 thepinkmushroom Dealing with a sister that can't stand me

My sister is about 2 years older than me. She is also the oldest child in the family. Since day 1 we've not had a "loving" relationship. It was horrible during teenage years, she never shared things with me including food and toys, and would also exclude me from hanging out with her and my other siblings; this included but is not limited to not allowing me to join the rest of them to watch movies, listen to music (and even then, we could only listen to music she liked), play in the backyard with them, chat and gossip with them, eat junk food and snacks with them etc. She would also lock me outside of the house so that I couldn't hang out with the rest of my siblings while they had fun inside the house.
Fast forward I'm now in my mid-20s and her behaviours have died down considerably but are still present. She gets mad at me if I ask her questions, or too many questions. Innocent questions like 'oh what did you do today?', 'your earrings are nice where are they from?', 'what perfume are you wearing?'. I also can't call her out on her behaviour because she gets mad at me for daring to talk bad about her. A side thing; she always counts the amount of food I eat and comments on it "oh that's ONLY your second slice of cake" she sneers. I always snap back telling her she's being so weird, I am a whole entire human being and can do what I want, and she does NOT like that. She spent a good 20 years bullying me for my weight, calling me a dog, a pig, an elephant, a cow, a rhino and a water buffalo. Mind you when she put on 10kg (20lb) this past year and complained about it, I never once brought up anything negative (even though it was KILLING me, and I wanted to so bad, but I knew how much it hurt me when she did it to me, so I didn't want to do it to her), and tried to positively encourage her to be gentle with herself and helped her look for ways to lose the excess weight.
The thing that triggered me to make this post is we were invited to a friend's house for dinner, my sister had brought a cake (we live separately since she got married a few years ago). I asked her what cake she made and after a LONG pause and stare, very condescendingly replied "coffee cake". I then asked what the icing was and she again sneers at me and snaps "coffee obviously, why are you asking me these stupid questions?" I didn't speak to her for the rest of the night, but she would come up and talk to me whenever she wanted to gossip, but would get mad if I wanted to go up and talk to her. I'm so confused. She also gets mad whenever I talk to another person enthusiastically, maybe we share a hobby or like the same things, and she'll get mad at me and ask why I have to be so excited and to stop being so lame.
I don't understand this and honestly I'm very over it. She's almost 30 and acts this way still. Never in front of her husband though, she wants to seem like a princess in front of him and God forbid I make a light-hearted joke about her in front of him, she gets PISSED at me and won't talk to me.
So what do I do? I don't want to try and fix her because that's not my place and she's a grown woman, it's not my job to do that. I just want to protect my peace. Advice?
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2024.05.12 09:01 pianoplayerjas The Sharp Knife of a Short Life

There was a boy. I’d known him since I was 5 but it wasn’t until I was older that I truly noticed him. We were in 6th grade when we started taking an advanced math class together. I could tell he was smart, funny, and a person I’d want to be around for a long time. Middle school and all the drama that ensues during that time quickly invaded my life. My social group shifted and I found myself closer to my friend, Dakota. By the time we were in 7th grade he was tall and strong. Blond hair and a light greenish set of smart eyes. We started working together outside of school. My dad worked for his dad and I often found myself at their house. Dakota had one older brother, a younger brother, and a younger sister. I’m the oldest of four so I could handle the chaos of lots of kids in a home. I had some of my most fun memories in middle school at that home. Not just me and Dakota, but with other friends we worked with, our siblings, and family friends. Nerf gun fights, swimming in the pool, and playing manhunt on the homestead that they lived on. I developed what you could consider a crush on Dakota. And the feeling was mutual. He hinted with the not-so-subtle flirting of a 14 year old boy. Pulling my hair, taking my things, and throwing snacks were often his go-to moves.
One night at a Christmas party, us “kids” were watching a movie while the adults played games and hung out in the other room. At some point, his head ended up on my lap. I remember touching his hair, but ultimately deciding I did NOT want someone to see this and assume the worse. Another time, we were alone in the basement. The basement was the place of all our friend hangouts. The video and board games were down there, along with the nerf guns. One night we were on the couch showing each other memes from our iPod touches. We were laughing and joking, then he handed me his iPod to read the next one. Except this wasn’t a meme: it was his notes app. On the screen it said “I think you are beautiful”. I instantly blushed and tried to hide my face. “Me?.....” I looked at him, also blushing red and he nodded. I told him thank you. It was the first time any boy had told me I was beautiful. In my own eyes, I was not. I had a big tooth gap because my parents couldn’t afford braces, and I wore glasses. I don’t know what he saw, but I appreciated the flattering compliment.
We entered high school where once again, your life shifts. You are faced with new teachers, new course materials, new teammates, and new challenges. We remained close friends through this time, by taking enough classes together and being involved with the same friends. It was nearing the fall homecoming season and I was nervous about getting a date. I saw many older boys asking girls to be their dates and I wondered if I would even have one my freshman year. Leave it up to my best friend Anna to set me up.
I clearly remember it was a Sunday night and I was watching football. My mom tells me she got a text from Dakota’s mom that there was a book she needed to grab from their house. She told me I needed to go with her. Without any context, I was annoyed she was making ME drive her there since I did not want to leave home. They lived about 5 minutes away so I figured the faster we leave the quicker I can get back home. Mom told me I should brush my hair.
“Why?”
“Well because you should look a little presentable.”
“It’s fine right, we’re just grabbing a book really quick, right?”
“Yes but you don’t want to leave the house looking like you do.”
I huffed and opened our sliding glass door going outside to the car.
“You should at least put some shoes on!”
“I’m FINE, Can we just go and get this over with”
I angrily and annoyed drove/ sped down the paved road to their house, all the while questioning my mother why she really needed me to go with her.
“I don’t know, there might be something there for you.”
I had no idea what that meant. We drove to the shop on their property that this supposed book was. I stepped out of the car, barefoot on the gravel and walked into the shop. There I see Dakota, holding a sign. I frantically looked around to figure out what was going on. I see Anna crouched in a corner covering her smiling mouth. I looked at his sign and read the homecoming proposal which used lyrics and titles from Beatles songs, my favorite band.
“Oh, Dakota! Of course yes!”
I gave him an awkward hug and turned around to realize that my mother didn’t need a book at all.
Dakota was sweet. In an innocent way. He had casually asked before if we could date, but being the reserved and shy individual I was, I had always declined. After the dance, we drifted, not for any particular reason. I heard he had started dating a different girl. She was older by two years. Was I hurt? Not particularly. Was I jealous? Maybe a little more so. They went to prom together and she was definitely way prettier than me. It happens, I thought, we aren’t meant to be. A romantic relationship would definitely change our entire chemistry.
Summer came and we were out working together on his family’s farm. We spent hours in the fields, talking, singing, and sweating. Just good friends again. It was normal and felt right. We spent a week together in late July on a church trip. We worked on a homeless shelter with our youth group and had a fun yet powerful time together. My mom, dad, and brother were on this trip as well, along with many of our church friends. After the week was done on Saturday, we drove back to our town. I remember waving goodbye to his family in their Suburban as they left the church parking lot. I didn’t realize how significant that goodbye would be.
A few days went by and we had casual texting conversations about work and school starting in the next few weeks. He texted me Tuesday night that his dad really needed some help the next morning bright and early. I wanted to sleep in. He texted “Don’t worry about it, we’ll get it covered.” A decision I’d soon regret.
Wednesday morning, I go to the church with my mom to do a couple of things with her. I can’t even recall what it was. We were getting into our car when we heard loud sirens throughout our small town. Mom and I looked at each other. Sirens are never a good sign. We get in the car, curious, but praying whoever needs the ambulance is okay. My mom gets a phone call. It’s one of our family friends. She says Dakota and his older brother have been in a bad car accident. That heavy feeling that makes your heart sink to your stomach instantly hit me. “They’re okay, they’re okay, they’re okay.” I kept telling myself. The ambulance was going fast, and Dakota is strong. He’s practically invincible. My mother’s friend tells us that we should stop by Dakota’s house to grab the boys clean clothes and bring them to the emergency room. We drive in silence, except for maybe a short prayer that the boys are okay. We get to the house and my mom quickly runs up the stairs to the boys’ bedroom. I stay downstairs. I observe the dining room. Dirty laundry in the baskets. Dirty dishes on the counter. Dakota’s name on a marker board along with a list of chores to do. We speed to the emergency room in the nearby town. On the way we received a text from Dakota’s older brother, John. He said he was doing okay but he wasn’t sure about Dakota. We should be keeping their family in our prayers. The panic was rising in my throat. I had been nervous about things before. This was different. It was like a nauseating churn that started in my stomach. Like my soul was shaking out of my physical body. We got to the hospital, parked and my mom said I should stay in the car. Probably wanting to protect me from any scarring sights within the ER. I wanted to go in. Could I see him? She insisted that I stay in the car. I stayed. Frozen at first. Then rocking back and forth. My palms were shaking and itchy in the center.
“This can’t be happening. Not Dakota. He’s like my best friend. Kids don’t die. He’s too young. Too smart. He has an incredibly successful life ahead of him.”
I was eyeing the automatic door for any sign of someone that I recognized. The ten minutes I waited felt like an hour. Ten minutes of restless uncertainty. Then I see my mom. She had one of the hardest faces that I had ever seen her make. She opened the driver’s side door and I immediately asked “What’s going on. Is he ok?!”
She looks at me dead in the eyes, shaking her head, “He didn’t make it, Jasmine”
A million emotions and questions flood my brain. I started blubbering and sobbing while hitting the dashboard. “No, no, no. Why!? Why him?” My mom breaks down with me, not able to get out a single word. The family friend who delivered the phone call joins us in the car. She says Dakota’s in a better place now. I’m in a state of shock and disbelief. Hot tears will not stop streaming down my cheeks. We were silent on the way back home. I ran upstairs to my room and shut the door. I cried into a pillow for the rest of the afternoon. I skipped dinner. There was a candlelight vigil that evening at a church. I barely had the strength to go, but my mom said it would be good for me. I brought my water bottle. I ate nothing and only drank water to replenish my tears the next two days. Saturday morning, I went to a different church with my family to see Dakota’s family. The church’s youth were making survivor bracelets out of parachute cord. Dakota had made them during his depressive episodes during his 9th grade year, when we somewhat drifted. Dakota and I took Spanish class together our freshman year. One day he asked me what my favorite color was. I told him blue. The next day he gave me a blue bracelet he had made. He said he accidentally made one too small. I was instantly brought back to that moment while standing in the church with dozens of people learning how to braid the cord. When I got home, I tore apart my vanity in search for the bracelet he had made for me. I put it on my right hand. I wore the bracelet everyday for an entire year. I had a Dakota original.
Dakota’s brother, John, who was entering his senior year, invited many of us friends to go out to the place where the accident happened. It was a blind intersection that I had previously been weary of earlier that summer. The corn was high and there were no road signs for a yield or stop. John explained how they had just got in the truck after working the field about a half mile south and were going to take their lunch break. He said they had just started going down the road, picking up speed, when he heard a small voice tell him to put his seatbelt on. John put his seatbelt on, but Dakota didn’t. John said he felt as if there was something around the corner, but ultimately did not slow down near the intersection. A driver, going 50 miles per hour, t-boned them in the intersection. According to John, the truck rolled and Dakota was thrown through the windshield. John found his phone and quickly called 911. He found Dakota and blood was coming from his mouth. He had a large wound on his forehead where he had smashed the dashboard. John pulled him into the field of soybeans, opposite the corn, and tried performing CPR. Dakota was mumbling and sputtering blood before his breathing stopped. The paramedics pronounced him dead at the scene. They said he was internally decapitated.
The wake for Dakota was on Sunday night. I had a tough time finding the strength to go. We waited in line behind dozens of people for close to an hour. When I finally got up to him, my heart sank again. There he was. His skin was pale. His hair was not right. His mother, who was right by, said it was okay to touch him. I reached for his hair to move it how he usually wore it. As I parted it, I saw the large scar covered by gobs of makeup that the hair was covering on his forehead. I put it back.
His funeral was the next day. Monday. At 1:18PM, his birthday date. I felt sick the whole morning. My whole family got in the car and my mom was talking to my younger siblings. I was silent. I was going to one of my best friends’ funerals. The church where the funeral was held was absolutely packed. Parked cars took up the surrounding blocks. The church had multiple floors and rooms with casted video of the celebration of life. I was considered close enough to sit in the sanctuary in the front half of the pews. I sat with my gifted teacher and other friends from the gifted program. What a terrible way to end your summer. Saying hello to people you haven’t seen in a few months at a funeral. I remember the funeral. There were songs and the service was led in large by Dakota’s own mother. To this day I have no idea how she had the strength to do that. I remember a few of the songs that were sung, but I’ll never forget the sound of the casket closing. The last goodbye. The final SLAM. His face would never again have sunlight shown upon it. Never again would a person touch him, hold him, hug him.
My family tried to get out to the burial but the crowd was just too insanely large to get around. I had the final say that we could go home. I’d come back another time.
The next day, I went to the scene of the accident. It was an intersection 5 miles east of my house. Someone had put up a make-shift cross at the intersection. I brought a big University of Kansas patch from one of our gifted trips to place at the cross. He loved basketball, and especially the Jayhawks. On the back of the patch I had written “I love you”. That night, there was a big storm. I sat up straight in bed and started crying as the wind whistled by my windows. The patch.
When I woke up, I found a reason to leave home and went back out to the intersection. I ran up to the cross and found my patch wrapped tightly around the base with some old barbed wire. I burst into tears of relief. I have no idea who saved my patch.
The next two weeks were spent preparing for school and fall practice. I had decided to do tennis that fall instead of volleyball. On the first day of school, I rode the bus into the town with my school. We drove past the intersection and I burst into tears. I cried four more times that day. Each time in the class he should have been in with me. I was distraught. I have no other way to describe how absolutely depressed I was walking the halls. Teachers were not the same. There was an absence in our sophomore class. An absence on our football team. In our audition choir. In our youth group. And in me. I tried my best to get through it. I started journaling a little bit after the accident to help organize my thoughts. To remember all the little details I could about him. To write them down so they didn’t disappear.
My sophomore year was brutal. I was playing tennis in the fall with a small team of girls who helped to create a safe and calm environment for me. I spent all of my hours in the team vehicle listening to two Lifehouse albums on repeat. I’d look out the window and reflect. What was life? What was my purpose? Why did this happen?
I didn’t have an answer. I bottled it up. It seemed that a lot of my class who weren’t very close with Dakota had a lot easier time going back to their normal lives. I was missing a friend. There was a contact in my phone from whom I’d never received another text. I had unfinished business. We had talked all summer about how our math class and Spanish II classes would be so fun this year. The bracelet I wore everyday was getting a stark tan line.
The semester rolled on. One of my other close friends moved to Colorado. And my last best friend, Anna, was in her own self-discovery phase. She wasn’t as close to Dakota and I was more or less a depressed teen at that time. I cried at school. In the bathrooms. In the locker room or a small music practice room. Am I just that sensitive? Why is no one else dealing with this grief like I am? I tried to distract myself with various activities. It worked for the most part. In the spring, I went out for softball. I loved softball. I had been playing it for years. I even had helped “assistant coach” a little girls rec league with Dakota and his family a few summers beforehand. Softball was hard but I needed the challenge. I worked hard at the sport and found myself on the varsity team after multiple players were out for the season due to injury or illness. In the last regular season game, on May 9th on our home field, I broke my leg. I had a high impact with the catcher while trying to steal home. The ump called me safe and we won the game by a run rule as I crumpled to the ground. I remember thinking I could stand up, but the weirdest tingling started down my leg around my knee. My coach carried me off the field like a baby. I pulled my helmet off and one tear slid down my cheek. They put me on a stretcher while the athletic trainer checked my knee.
“Yep, you fractured a bone. We should get you in to the ER for an X-ray”
“Fracture? Like my bone broke?”
“Yes that’s what a fracture is”
I started sobbing. Not from the pain. From the overwhelming feeling of becoming an invalid for an uncertain amount of time. I slid in the back of my mom’s vehicle as we drove down to the county ER. We got there, I was still in uniform. Just hysterical. I had no idea what was going on as I had never had an injury like this before. The ER lady took X-rays of my right leg. The images came back and showed a tibial plateau fracture. I wouldn’t be walking for a while. They helped cut me out of my softball pants and sent me home with lots of pain killers. The next few days I spent vomiting from the strong norco drug. I had a surgery a few days later where they placed hardware in my knee and put me in a straight-leg brace. I was miserable. It was hot and scratchy and I had my finals coming up. I went back to school the next Wednesday or Thursday to collect some class work to do at home. As I lived on the downstairs couch for close to three weeks I found myself asking again “Why did this happen?” I finished the school year by doing my final projects and giving my German foreign exchange student friend a final hug. I remember thinking “This is a nicer way to say goodbye to someone forever”.
I couldn’t walk for most of the summer and I started painful physical therapy. I was frequenting 3 times a week for a long while to build back my strength and relearn to walk. As soon as I was weight-bearing, I started working outside again. Doing what I could with one crutch. Dakota’s dad hired me to help manage the field workers and I could do some wood stacking decently enough. On the 1 year anniversary of Dakota’s death, I went to the gravesite for a small ceremony. It was the first time I had been there. The intersection where he died was my frequent mourning spot, almost daily on my drive to and from school. The gravestone was large and obviously very expensive. It has a beautiful picture of him and the quote “You got this”, that he used often as a self-reassuring phrase. At some point after the 1-year, I stopped wearing the bracelet he made me. Was it time to let go? How long does one mourn?
The rest of my high school journey was tainted with the memories of him and the phantom memories of where I imagined him being. At my graduation, we had an honorary memorial and scholarship dedicated to him and his character. Then I went to college. I was already dating who would become my husband a number of years later.
Years have passed. There is no happy ending. I'm still here. Aging. Growing older while I can still see the face of my 15 year old friend. He isn’t growing. He’s in the ground. Resting. It feels like a lifetime until I can see him again. I’ve had dreams of him. Unprompted visions of him were prevalent for about 2 years after he passed. You would think this story would get easier after the number of times I’ve played in my head over all of these years. But it hasn’t. I’m in the acceptance stage of grief. I’ve lived life, gotten married, laughed again, and see a bright future for myself. Though I do often think, Where would Dakota be now? Would we have become closer friends? Would he be married? He would have made a good father.
Again, I have no answers to these questions that I suppose may eternally sit with me. I do have some answers though. I’ve learned how to not take people for granted. I’ve learned how to recognize depressive symptoms and how to be a listening ear for someone who feels hopeless. I’ve learned how to find purpose in helping people. I’ve learned patience. Sometimes patience is agonizing, which means the reward is definitely worth the wait.
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2024.05.12 08:35 superhypersaw Fina/Velka/Caitha are the same goddess. A response to RickyTebbe's "Catha & Yulva" video.

I posted this is his comment section, but I thought I would share it here for you all to read.
https://youtu.be/E9TRG2S0kDk
You're on the same path I went through some years ago. Caitha is Velka but she's also Fina. These are all the same goddess. I'll give you a rundown on the things I found.
  1. Vow of Silence is a Velka miracle that has a slight modification to it in DS3. It drops a tear.
  2. In Japanese, Velka is called Belka, as in bells of awakening. Bells are also known as chimes.
  3. Gargoyles protect the bell tower in DS1 which is a Velka bell tower. The Morne armor is in the image of a gargoyle and Morne is related to Caitha.
  4. Crows are known for morning their dead. Velka is associated with crows and Caitha morns tears for the recently deceased.
  5. In DS1 stat screen, you can see two types of halos, one white and one black showing the duplicity of the halo.
  6. Wrath of the Gods has an opposite that behaves just like it when activated. That miracle is Velka's Karmic Justice.
  7. Wrath of the Gods produces resonance and is one of four miracles that only do this. The other three are Bountiful Sunlight, Soothing Sunlight and Great Heal.
  8. Bountiful Sunlight and Soothing Sunlight can only be used when in the Princess Guard covenant tying them to Gwynevere. However, contrary to what most people think they're not originally hers. They are heirlooms from her mother Fina like how Gwyn's Sunlight Blade is Faraam's heirloom. That also means the Divine Blessing was originally Fina's.
  9. Resonance is something of importance to a particular race. The giant race (DS2 Giant's Kinship). Gwynevere takes on her mother's size and Nito is Fina's father. Thanks to Channel Yoshimitsu for pointing out in the Japanese text about Lloyd being uncle to Gwyn through his wife's side of the family. That was a major piece of the puzzle missing in the English text.
  10. The Divine Blessing mentions Gwynevere being the goddess of harvest. Scythes and sickles are farming tools for cutting wheat. Wheat symbology is all over Anor Londo. Lautrec the Embraced wields sickles, he has equipped Tear Stone rings and has a New Londo Sealer with him outside the bed chamber of Gwynevere which was originally Gwyn's and Fina's.
  11. Lautrec's sickles are in the shape of the Dark Moon and the New Londo sealers all have Dark Moon crescent symbols on their attire and their masks are corvian, just like the one Yuria of Londor wears in DS3.
  12. Leonard is found outside Anor Londo's bed chamber using a Dark Moon crescent weapon, calls Rosaria 'blessed' Rosaria (I'm sure you know where I'm going with this).
  13. Rosaria's soul can be transposed into Bountiful Sunlight.
  14. Faraam and Filianore have the same initial as Fina, and both of them have black hair, just like the black Haired Velka. Faraam (Nameless King) is old, so his hair is mostly grey, but you can see strands of his original black hair.
  15. Caitha takes over some of the items in DS2 with the Engraved Ring stating "There are countless vestiges of long-lost gods in the ruins of Drangleic. Or perhaps they are the very same gods as ours, only known by different names". This is directly telling the player that the old gods do go under different names otherwise this wouldn't be said.
  16. Fina is known as fateful and Lautrec who is trying to meet up with her is called Lautrec the Embraced. In DS2, two NPC's indirectly mention Fina. Agdayne says: "Death is equitable, accepting. We will all one day be welcomed by 'her' embrace" with the other, Shanalotte saying this "I was created by those who would cozen (trick) fate herself".
  17. You can see a skeleton faced Fina/Velka/Caitha in DS2 on a bass relief in the Undead Crypt entrance. This depicts her as a giant over pygmies.
  18. The Dead Ring can be picked up in the Undead Crypt. It can create a veneer of life over a dead body. Fina, being Nito's daughter would find something like that useful while she was in Anor Londo. It presents Fina as deceptive and we all know that the Way of White is a deceptive religion.
  19. Fina is known to embrace her men. Prince Lothric embraces Prince Lorian like Lautrec's armor does.
  20. Vow of Silence, a Velka miracle is literally practiced on Way of White Followers. Anastacia, Nico and Horace have all had their tongues cut out.
  21. Rosaria had her tongue cut out by her 'First Born' and is waiting for his return. No wonder his name was removed from the annals of history.
So how can this be. How and she be these three goddesses and now Rosaria? Two specific things.
  1. DS2. Onifex the corvian is surrounded by puppets.
  2. Nito's domain has a pool of water producing baby skeletons that drop humanity when killed.
The Way of White crafted humans in their current corporeal form (like Leroy was). This is confirmed by the name of the Vertebra Shackle in DS3 and Rosaria can re-craft your corporeal form. If Rosaria can do that to you, then there's nothing stopping her doing it to herself. In fact we see the birth of the Ashen One when the chime from the bell(ka) of awakening rises you from your coffin. Fina/Velka/Caitha/Rosaria is 100% running the show behind the scene and just when I thought her schemes are top notch, I then recently realized that the painted worlds are a 4D chess move of hers as well. Many people including myself thought for a long time that the corvian saying "When the world rots, we burn it down for the sake of the new world. It's the one thing we do right, unlike those fools on the outside" was some meta commentary about game developers. But the painted worlds are there to consolidate the outcasts and then burns all of them like Gwyn would do to keep the Age of Fire going. Absolute masterclass of story telling Miyazaki. This giant Goddess of Death herding the sheeple into the flames keep the Age of Fire cycle day and night going. No wonder she's referred to as a demon, the malevolent kind that is.
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2024.05.12 08:34 superhypersaw Fina/Velka/Caitha are the same goddess. A response to RickyTebbe's "Catha & Yulva" video.

I posted this is his comment section, but I thought I would share it here for you all to read.
https://youtu.be/E9TRG2S0kDk
You're on the same path I went through some years ago. Caitha is Velka but she's also Fina. These are all the same goddess. I'll give you a rundown on the things I found.
  1. Vow of Silence is a Velka miracle that has a slight modification to it in DS3. It drops a tear.
  2. In Japanese, Velka is called Belka, as in bells of awakening. Bells are also known as chimes.
  3. Gargoyles protect the bell tower in DS1 which is a Velka bell tower. The Morne armor is in the image of a gargoyle and Morne is related to Caitha.
  4. Crows are known for morning their dead. Velka is associated with crows and Caitha morns tears for the recently deceased.
  5. In DS1 stat screen, you can see two types of halos, one white and one black showing the duplicity of the halo.
  6. Wrath of the Gods has an opposite that behaves just like it when activated. That miracle is Velka's Karmic Justice.
  7. Wrath of the Gods produces resonance and is one of four miracles that only do this. The other three are Bountiful Sunlight, Soothing Sunlight and Great Heal.
  8. Bountiful Sunlight and Soothing Sunlight can only be used when in the Princess Guard covenant tying them to Gwynevere. However, contrary to what most people think they're not originally hers. They are heirlooms from her mother Fina like how Gwyn's Sunlight Blade is Faraam's heirloom. That also means the Divine Blessing was originally Fina's.
  9. Resonance is something of importance to a particular race. The giant race (DS2 Giant's Kinship). Gwynevere takes on her mother's size and Nito is Fina's father. Thanks to Channel Yoshimitsu for pointing out in the Japanese text about Lloyd being uncle to Gwyn through his wife's side of the family. That was a major piece of the puzzle missing in the English text.
  10. The Divine Blessing mentions Gwynevere being the goddess of harvest. Scythes and sickles are farming tools for cutting wheat. Wheat symbology is all over Anor Londo. Lautrec the Embraced wields sickles, he has equipped Tear Stone rings and has a New Londo Sealer with him outside the bed chamber of Gwynevere which was originally Gwyn's and Fina's.
  11. Lautrec's sickles are in the shape of the Dark Moon and the New Londo sealers all have Dark Moon crescent symbols on their attire and their masks are corvian, just like the one Yuria of Londor wears in DS3.
  12. Leonard is found outside Anor Londo's bed chamber using a Dark Moon crescent weapon, calls Rosaria 'blessed' Rosaria (I'm sure you know where I'm going with this).
  13. Rosaria's soul can be transposed into Bountiful Sunlight.
  14. Faraam and Filianore have the same initial as Fina, and both of them have black hair, just like the black Haired Velka. Faraam (Nameless King) is old, so his hair is mostly grey, but you can see strands of his original black hair.
  15. Caitha takes over some of the items in DS2 with the Engraved Ring stating "There are countless vestiges of long-lost gods in the ruins of Drangleic. Or perhaps they are the very same gods as ours, only known by different names". This is directly telling the player that the old gods do go under different names otherwise this wouldn't be said.
  16. Fina is known as fateful and Lautrec who is trying to meet up with her is called Lautrec the Embraced. In DS2, two NPC's indirectly mention Fina. Agdayne says: "Death is equitable, accepting. We will all one day be welcomed by 'her' embrace" with the other, Shanalotte saying this "I was created by those who would cozen (trick) fate herself".
  17. You can see a skeleton faced Fina/Velka/Caitha in DS2 on a bass relief in the Undead Crypt entrance. This depicts her as a giant over pygmies.
  18. The Dead Ring can be picked up in the Undead Crypt. It can create a veneer of life over a dead body. Fina, being Nito's daughter would find something like that useful while she was in Anor Londo. It presents Fina as deceptive and we all know that the Way of White is a deceptive religion.
  19. Fina is known to embrace her men. Prince Lothric embraces Prince Lorian like Lautrec's armor does.
  20. Vow of Silence, a Velka miracle is literally practiced on Way of White Followers. Anastacia, Nico and Horace have all had their tongues cut out.
  21. Rosaria had her tongue cut out by her 'First Born' and is waiting for his return. No wonder his name was removed from the annals of history.
So how can this be. How and she be these three goddesses and now Rosaria? Two specific things.
  1. DS2. Onifex the corvian is surrounded by puppets.
  2. Nito's domain has a pool of water producing baby skeletons that drop humanity when killed.
The Way of White crafted humans in their current corporeal form (like Leroy was). This is confirmed by the name of the Vertebra Shackle in DS3 and Rosaria can re-craft your corporeal form. If Rosaria can do that to you, then there's nothing stopping her doing it to herself. In fact we see the birth of the Ashen One when the chime from the bell(ka) of awakening rises you from your coffin. Fina/Velka/Caitha/Rosaria is 100% running the show behind the scene and just when I thought her schemes are top notch, I then recently realized that the painted worlds are a 4D chess move of hers as well. Many people including myself thought for a long time that the corvian saying "When the world rots, we burn it down for the sake of the new world. It's the one thing we do right, unlike those fools on the outside" was some meta commentary about game developers. But the painted worlds are there to consolidate the outcasts and then burns all of them like Gwyn would do to keep the Age of Fire going. Absolute masterclass of story telling Miyazaki. This giant Goddess of Death herding the sheeple into the flames keep the Age of Fire cycle day and night going. No wonder she's referred to as a demon, the malevolent kind that is.
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2024.05.12 08:20 superhypersaw Fina/Velka/Caitha are the same goddess. A response to RickyTebbe's "Catha & Yulva" video.

I posted this is his comment section, but I thought I would share it here for you all to read.
https://youtu.be/E9TRG2S0kDk
You're on the same path I went through some years ago. Caitha is Velka but she's also Fina. These are all the same goddess. I'll give you a rundown on the things I found.
  1. Vow of Silence is a Velka miracle that has a slight modification to it in DS3. It drops a tear.
  2. In Japanese, Velka is called Belka, as in bells of awakening. Bells are also known as chimes.
  3. Gargoyles protect the bell tower in DS1 which is a Velka bell tower. The Morne armor is in the image of a gargoyle and Morne is related to Caitha.
  4. Crows are known for morning their dead. Velka is associated with crows and Caitha morns tears for the recently deceased.
  5. In DS1 stat screen, you can see two types of halos, one white and one black showing the duplicity of the halo.
  6. Wrath of the Gods has an opposite that behaves just like it when activated. That miracle is Velka's Karmic Justice.
  7. Wrath of the Gods produces resonance and is one of four miracles that only do this. The other three are Bountiful Sunlight, Soothing Sunlight and Great Heal.
  8. Bountiful Sunlight and Soothing Sunlight can only be used when in the Princess Guard covenant tying them to Gwynevere. However, contrary to what most people think they're not originally hers. They are heirlooms from her mother Fina like how Gwyn's Sunlight Blade is Faraam's heirloom. That also means the Divine Blessing was originally Fina's.
  9. Resonance is something of importance to a particular race. The giant race (DS2 Giant's Kinship). Gwynevere takes on her mother's size and Nito is Fina's father. Thanks to Channel Yoshimitsu for pointing out in the Japanese text about Lloyd being uncle to Gwyn through his wife's side of the family. That was a major piece of the puzzle missing in the English text.
  10. The Divine Blessing mentions Gwynevere being the goddess of harvest. Scythes and sickles are farming tools for cutting wheat. Wheat symbology is all over Anor Londo. Lautrec the Embraced wields sickles, he has equipped Tear Stone rings and has a New Londo Sealer with him outside the bed chamber of Gwynevere which was originally Gwyn's and Fina's.
  11. Lautrec's sickles are in the shape of the Dark Moon and the New Londo sealers all have Dark Moon crescent symbols on their attire and their masks are corvian, just like the one Yuria of Londor wears in DS3.
  12. Leonard is found outside Anor Londo's bed chamber using a Dark Moon crescent weapon, calls Rosaria 'blessed' Rosaria (I'm sure you know where I'm going with this).
  13. Rosaria's soul can be transposed into Bountiful Sunlight.
  14. Faraam and Filianore have the same initial as Fina, and both of them have black hair, just like the black Haired Velka. Faraam (Nameless King) is old, so his hair is mostly grey, but you can see strands of his original black hair.
  15. Caitha takes over some of the items in DS2 with the Engraved Ring stating "There are countless vestiges of long-lost gods in the ruins of Drangleic. Or perhaps they are the very same gods as ours, only known by different names". This is directly telling the player that the old gods do go under different names otherwise this wouldn't be said.
  16. Fina is known as fateful and Lautrec who is trying to meet up with her is called Lautrec the Embraced. In DS2, two NPC's indirectly mention Fina. Agdayne says: "Death is equitable, accepting. We will all one day be welcomed by 'her' embrace" with the other, Shanalotte saying this "I was created by those who would cozen (trick) fate herself".
  17. You can see a skeleton faced Fina/Velka/Caitha in DS2 on a bass relief in the Undead Crypt entrance. This depicts her as a giant over pygmies.
  18. The Dead Ring can be picked up in the Undead Crypt. It can create a veneer of life over a dead body. Fina, being Nito's daughter would find something like that useful while she was in Anor Londo. It presents Fina as deceptive and we all know that the Way of White is a deceptive religion.
  19. Fina is known to embrace her men. Prince Lothric embraces Prince Lorian like Lautrec's armor does.
  20. Vow of Silence, a Velka miracle is literally practiced on Way of White Followers. Anastacia, Nico and Horace have all had their tongues cut out.
  21. Rosaria had her tongue cut out by her 'First Born' and is waiting for his return. No wonder his name was removed from the annals of history.
So how can this be. How and she be these three goddesses and now Rosaria? Two specific things.
  1. DS2. Onifex the corvian is surrounded by puppets.
  2. Nito's domain has a pool of water producing baby skeletons that drop humanity when killed.
The Way of White crafted humans in their current corporeal form (like Leroy was). This is confirmed by the name of the Vertebra Shackle in DS3 and Rosaria can re-craft your corporeal form. If Rosaria can do that to you, then there's nothing stopping her doing it to herself. In fact we see the birth of the Ashen One when the chime from the bell(ka) of awakening rises you from your coffin. Fina/Velka/Caitha/Rosaria is 100% running the show behind the scene and just when I thought her schemes are top notch, I then recently realized that the painted worlds are a 4D chess move of hers as well. Many people including myself thought for a long time that the corvian saying "When the world rots, we burn it down for the sake of the new world. It's the one thing we do right, unlike those fools on the outside" was some meta commentary about game developers. But the painted worlds are there to consolidate the outcasts and then burns all of them like Gwyn would do to keep the Age of Fire going. Absolute masterclass of story telling Miyazaki. This giant Goddess of Death herding the sheeple into the flames keep the Age of Fire cycle day and night going. No wonder she's referred to as a demon, the malevolent kind that is.
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2024.05.12 04:47 BeefScooter94 I tried to rank every single named character by how much they sang and (almost) every single word they sang.

Btw pilot not included OKAY LETS GO (long ass read, this took me 2 days lmao)
HAS NOT SANG: Katie Killjoy, Tom Trench, KeeKee, Fat Nuggets, Razzle, Dazzle, Egg Bois, Lilith
Susan: You mean like human flesh? By "Die, " do you mean use my teeth to rip flesh apart?
Mimzy: It's me! Yes it's me! I know you were all waiting for me, I'm here, what a gas, took awhile but I'm present at last, it's me, it's me, Mimzyyyyyyy!
Zestial: We can't act without more intelligence What weighs on your soul, old friend? I implore you to share the load, If it was thou who slew the angel, Why not let your strength be known?
Sir Pentious: Who could forgive a dirtbag like me? I don't deserve your amnesty Sorry I'm so sorry! It'll take time to cover, My vast multitude of sins, But sorry is where it begins, It starts with sorry
Valentino: Overlords hanging by a thread, with a bit of bravado, maybe tomorrow, we'll be atop the heap, While the rest of Hell's pissing! Fled with his tail between his legs! Nature abhors a power vacuum, it leaves room for you and me, the future of hell belongs to the vees!
Cherri Bomb: We can do this, we can build it, Best hotel that you've ever seen, twice the bedrooms, we can fill it fulfill your destiny! We can do this, we'll be better, though redemption may take a while, wayward sinners, clear their ledger and then tomorrow it will be a fuckin happy day in hell!
Lute: What are we even talking about? Some crack-whore who fucked up already? He blew his shot like the cocks in his mouth, this discussion is senseless and petty! There's no question to be posed, he's unholy case closed, did you forget that hell is forever! Guess the cat's outta the bag! Ha! She should know
Sera: Of course it's just temporary, Im sorry you can't stay It's not as simple as you think, Not everything is spelled in ink I'm sure you wish it could be so, But there's a lot that you don't know Adam.. I thought, since I'm older, It's my load to shoulder You have to listen, it was such a hard decision, I wanted to save you, the anguish it takes to, Do what was required Emily..
Niffty: I was stuck, thank you sir! We can do this, we can build it, Best hotel that you've ever seen, Twice the bedrooms, we can fill it Fulfill your destiny To build a hotel I think we need some brick and lumber It's as easy as can be! We can do this, We'll be better, Though redemption may take a while, Wayward sinners dear they're ledger And then tomorrow it will be a fuckin happy day in hell!
St Peter: Dearly beloved, it is my pleasure to say unto thee, Welcome to Heaven, oh-oh, Where the virtuous reside 24/7, oh-oh, People are happy that they died, 'Cause here we got no worries, got no burglaries, no strife, It's the perfect afterlife, Welcome to Heaven, 😩, Check out our sick décor, the spirits leaven, oh!, Please keep your brimstone off the floor, We've got the best and brightest, the politest of the lot, And everyone is h😩t! 'Cause every single day in Heaven is a happy day, Welcome to Heaven, yeah
Rosie: Oh, don't be put off by their snarlin', That's enthusiasm, darlin'! Don't worry, honey, That's their thing, Keep singing, We're super duper grateful To have you folks aboard They're dancing along, They're singing her song She's bound to pass the test as Princess of Hell, Like her Daddy, she is madly power-fell! I concur! Stick with her, we'll be on the winning side! For the first time in our lives, We know that we are ready for this, We'll show Heaven a fight they won't forget! It's time to take a stand We cannot take it anymore, The time has come to go to war, Prepare to fight, we're ready for... THIS!
Velvette: You've got it twisted, I'm not the one who needs a new attitude, Maybe you missed it, but I'm that #Bitch, And I will do nothing less than what I please, woo! I'm the backbone of the Vees, Mad that I acted respectless?, Well, it's 'cause no one could respect this, Sorry to the group attendin', Since when are overlords too scared to fight?, You're long past trendin', Sorry, bae, but I ain't swipin' right, You lost your relevance Ugh, no wonder I'm so respectless, I could eat you lot for breakfast Oops! Did I strike a nerve? 'Cause when I brought out the angel's head, Couldn't help but observe, That your wrinkled face was turning red, And why are you avoidin' war?, That's what the guns you sell are for, Thanks to my being respectless, One thing I'm starting to suspect is, You know why this angel's headless, Do you have a disclosure?
Emily: Gosh, I'm so pleased to show some outsiders around, After you see our realm, you'll never wanna go back down 'Cause every single day in Heaven is a happy day Welcome to Heaven, yeah But she was right, Sera, She showed us a soul can improve, He saw the light, Sera, Checked all the boxes that you said would, Prove a person deserves a second chance, Now we turn our backs, no second glance? Wait! What are you saying? Let me get this straight, You go down there and kill those poor souls? Sera, tell me that you didn't know No! To think that I admired you, well, I don't need your condescension, I'm not a child to protect, Was talk of virtue just pretension? Was I too naive to expect you to heed the morals you're purveying? If Hell is forever, then Heaven must be a lie, If angels can do whatever, and remain in the sky, The rules are shades of gray when you don't do as you say, When you make the wretched suffer just to kill them again
Vaggie: Charlie, hold on It's just a meeting This could be bad Okay, but just don't sing to them Is she- Ugh, no... Can we just kill him, shoot him and spill his blood Works for us When I saw your face, You made me feel like a stranger in a brand new place, And it felt so good to be understood, But there's so much I wished that I could say, So I, I'll be your armor, Do whatever it takes, I'll make the mistakes, I'll spend my life being your partner And I will try to make your dreams come true Whatever we go through, I know I... I'll be your armour Whatever it takes I'll make the mistakes, whatever it takes Careful, Charlie, keep a cool head We should go Adam, no, please You've already done so much, So many lives you've changed, So many souls you've touched, And in the end, if it's only me you've saved There's something that I've been dying to say, More than anything, more than anything, Need you to know I love you more than anything More than anything We can do this, We can build it, Best hotel that you've ever seen! Twice the bedrooms, we can fill it It starts with you, you know it's true, fulfill your destiny! New coat of paint! With a little sorcery! We can do this, We'll be better, Though redemption may take a while, Wayward sinners, clear their ledger We're gonna do this, you and me, and then tomorrow it will be a fuckin happy day in hell!
Vox: Welcome home, I'm gonna make you wish that you'd stayed gone, Say hello to a new status quo, Everyone knows that there's a brand-new dawn, Turn the TV on! Top of the hour, and we're discussing a certain has-been, Who has been spotted cavorting around town, After a seven-year absence, Did anybody miss him? Did anybody notice? More on tonight's program, So, the radio demon is back in town, Why is he hanging around? What does that mean for your family? Well handily, I've got good news, He's a loser, a fossil and I don't mean to sound hostile, But the demon is a coward! You can take that as gospel Pulling my viewers? Impossible! I'm visual, he's barely audible, Stop givin' him the time of day, Don't listen to a word he'd say, I hope he had a nice vacay, But he should've stayed away, While he hid in radio, We pivoted to videoNow his medium is gettin' bloody rare, Hell's been better since he split, Where's he been? Who gives a shit! What a dated voice! Come on! Ignore his chirping! Oh please! Hold on! You old-timey prick, I'll show you suffering, Uh oh, the TV is buffering! I'll destroy you, you little– FUUUUHUHUCKKKKAH! After the battle, masterless cattle, overlords hanging by a thread, with a bit of bravado, maybe tomorrow, we'll be atop the heap Alastor's missing, fled with his tail between his legs, nature abhors a power vacuum, it leaves room for you an me, the future of hell belongs to the vees
Husk: So things look bad, and your back's against the wall, Your whole existence seems fuckin' hopeless, You're feelin' filthy as a dive bar bathroom stall, Can't face the world sober and dopeless, You've lost your way, you think your life is wrecked, Well, let me just say you're correct You're a loser, baby, A loser, goddamn baby, You're a fucked up little whiny bitch Your a loser, just like me your a screws loose boozer, an only one-star reviews-er your a power bottom, at rock bottom, but you got company There was a time I thought that no one could relate, To the gruesome ways in which I'm damaged, But lettin' walls down, it can sometimes set you straight!, We're all livin' in the same shit sandwich haha! and you think that makes you unique? get outta here man, We're both losers, baby, We're losers, it's okay to be a baby, that's fine by me You're a loser, Just like me, I got an appetite for gamblin' Go ahead baby, sing that song, come on! I sold my soul to save my power, Now I'm on that demon's leash, I'm trapped and it gets worse with every hour A loser, but just maybe if we, Eat shit together, things will end up differently, It's time to lose your self-loathin', Excuse yourself, let hope in, baby, Play your card, be who you are, A loser, just like me We can do this, we can build it Best hotel that you've ever seen, Twice the bedrooms, we can fill it, With more sinners than you can dream fulfill your destiny! New lights across the marquee, with a little sorcery! We can do this, We'll be better, Though redemption may take a while, Wayward sinners dear they're ledger And then tomorrow it will be a fuckin happy day in hell!
Carmilla: You better show some respect!, Check your behavior, no one speaks to Zestial that way! Did you expect us, to sit back and take your insolent, brazen display? You and the vees are inane and uninformed, smug wannabees you don't heed when you've been warned this meeting's over I always thought, That I would keep blood off my face, But when that thing attacked, I had to act, To cross that line and keep them safe, But if anyone knew, Then all of Hell would rise to war And who's to say who'd survive the fray? I might lose the ones that I was killing for, So I, I'll be your keeper, Do whatever it takes, I'll make the mistakes, I'll keep you safe and keep this secret And I don't know what we might face, But I know I can't replace you so, I'll do anything to save you, Whatever we go through, I know I... I'll be your keeper, I'll be your armor, Whatever it takes, I'll make the mistakes, I'll make the mistakes, Whatever it takes I see you're driven by your detestation, Your every step is stoked with animus, You need a different type of motivation, Or there's no way that you can handle this, I know you're thirstin' for vengeance, Vaggie, You're out for blood, But you'll only stand a chance if you're out for love, Out for love, love, Think of who you care about, protect 'em and be Out for love, love, You're gonna fight without gloves, long as you're out for love, Fuel yourself with the fear of losin', That somebody who's your reason to live, Harnеss your heart, and you can't help choosin', To fight with all you can give, I know you'rе thirstin' for vengeance, Vaggie, You're out for blood, But you'll only stand a chance if you're out for love, Out for love, love, Think of who you care about, protect 'em and be, Out for love, love, You're gonna fight without gloves, And when that push comes to shove, Yeah, you just might rise above, long as you're out for love
Angel: That bitch is halfway down the street Oh, she's dancin' Can we just kill him, shoot him, and spill his blood works for us I'm not above a love to cash in, Another lover underneath those flashin' lights, Another one of those ruthless nights, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I shoulda guessed that this would happen, I shoulda known it when I looked in your red-hot eyes, Spewin' all your red-hot lies, Yeah, yeah, yeah, What's the worst part of this hell? I can only blame myself, 'Cause I know you're poison, you're feedin' me poison, Addicted to this feelin', I can't help but swallow up your poison, I made my choice, and every night, I'm livin' like there's no tomorrow, Oh-oh, oh-oh, Any way you want me, baby, that's the way you got me, I'll be yours, My story's gonna end with me dead from your poison, I got so good at bein' untrue, I got so good at tellin' you what you wanna hear, I disassociate, disappear, Yeah, yeah, yeah, So far beyond difficult to resist another gulp, Yeah, I know it's poison, you're feedin' me poison, I'm chokin' from the taste and I can't help but swallow up your poison, I made my choice, and every night, I'm wasted like there's no tomorrow, Oh-oh, oh-oh, Any way you want me, baby, that's the way you got me, I'll be yours, My story's gonna end with me dead from your poison, Poison, I'm drownin' in poison, I'm fillin' up my glass, but it's always hollow, Full of poison, I'm sick of the poison, Wish I had something to live for tomorrow We can do this, we can build it, Best hotel that you've ever seen, Twice the bedrooms, we can fill it You know it's true fulfill your destiny! Start with foundation It's as easy as can be! We can do this, we'll be better, though redemption may take a while, wayward sinners clear they're ledger and then tomorrow it will be a fuckin happy day in hell!
Adam: Let me stop you right there, Save us all precious time, If what you're suggesting Is letting them climb, Up the ladder, Oh, they'd rather cross the Pearly Gates? Sorry, sweetie, But there's no defyin' their fates! 'Cause Hell is forever, Whether you like it or not, Had their chance to behave better, Now they boil in the pot, 'Cause the rules are black and white, There's no use in tryin' to fight it, They're burnin' for their lives, Until we kill 'em again! Just try to chillax, babe, You're wasting your breath, Did I hear you imply, That they don't deserve death? Are they Winners? Are they Sinners? 'Cause it's cut and dry, Fair is fair, an eye for an eye! And when all's said and done, There's the question of fun, And for those of us with Divine Ordainment, Extermination is entertainment! Bow-now-now-nownow Guitar solo, fuck yeah! Oh, da-ah-ah now-now-n-now-n-now-n-now-n-nownownow, Hell is forever, Whether you like it or not, Had their chance to behave better, Now they boil in the pot, 'Cause the rules are black and white, There's no use in tryin' to fight it, They're burnin' for their lives, Until we kill 'em again! Fuckin' Hell's forever, And it's meant to suck a lot, So give up your dumb endeavor 'Cause you don't have a shot!, Long as I've got your attention, I guess I should probably mention, That we made the determination, To move up the next Extermination! Can't wait a whole year, To slaughter those little cunts, I know it's just been a week, But we'll be back in six months! There's no question to be posed, he's unholy cased closed, did you forget that hell is forever? A man only lives once, we'll see you in 1 month, gotta say I can't wait to come down and exterminate you! Shit.. Whoops! Wh-what's the big deal? Don't you act all high and mighty, did you ever think your little "girlfriend" might be a liar? What's the fuss? Why hid the fact that your an angel just like us?
Lucifer: Haha, Looks like you could use some help, From the big boss of Hell himself, Check out daddy's glowing reviews on Yelp (Five stars! Flawless! Greater than great!) Oh, with the punch of a pentagram, I wap-bam-boom, alakazam, Usually, I charge a sacrificial lamb, But you get the family rate ("thanks dad!"), Who needs a busboy, now that you've got the chef? (wow), Michelin-tasting menu, free à la carte, I'll rig the game for you because I'm the ref, Champagne fountains, caviar mountains, that's just a start! Uh, what? Hold on, now Others say, that in your needy hour, There's no substitute for pure angelic power! Who just happens to also be your blood! What a bunch of losers your song, I started this! Oh, you tacky piece of- You didn't know that when I tried this all before, My dreams were too hard to defend, And in the end, I won't lose it all again, Now you're the only thing worth fighting for, More than anything, more than anything, I'll shelter and adore you more than anything I've been dyin' to find out who you are Looks like the apple doesn't fall far! I've missed that smile All that I'm hopin', now that my eyes are open, Is that we can start again, not be pulled apart again, 'Cause in the end, you are part of who I am, I'll support your dream, whatever lies in store More than anything More than anything, I'm grateful you're my daughter more than anything, More than anything Come on little lady, why the frown? In the last ten-thousand years, You're the first one to change this town, You can do this, now I know it, For your story has just begun, You can't quit now, hell, you owe it, There's still damage to be undone, You've changed my mind, you've touched their hearts, From the good and souls gone bad The stage is wrecked, the crowd is gone, But by God, Charlie! The show, it must go on, We can do this, we can build it, Best hotel that you've ever seen, Twice the bedrooms, we can fill it, With more sinners than you can dream, It starts with you, You know it's true, Fulfill your destiny Good thing we're in Hell, Check out this little magic number Remedial creation for me, It's as easy as can be! We can do this, we'll be better, though redemption may take a while, wayward sinners, clear their ledger oh, this guy... And then tomorrow it will be a fuckin happy day in hell!
Alastor: Salutations! Good to be back on the air, Yes, I know it's been a while, Since someone with style treated hell to a broadcast, Sinners, rejoice! Instead of a clout-chasin' mediocre video podcast Is Vox insecure? Pursuing allure? Flitting between this fad and that, is nothin' working? Every day, he's got a new format Is Vox as strong as he purports, Or is it based on his support? He'd be powerless without the other Vees And here's the sugar on the cream, He asked me to join his team I said no, and now he's pissy, that's the tea Uh oh, the TV is buffering! I'm afraid you've lost your signal Let's begin, I'm gonna make you wish that I'd stayed gone, Tune on in when I'm done, Your status quo will know its race is run, Oh, this will be fun Who's been here since day one? Who's been faithful as a nun? Who makes you chuckle with an old-timey pun? Your executive producer? I'm your guy, your day-to-day, Your chum, your steadfast hotelier, Remember when I fixed that clog today? I'm truly honored that we've built such a bond, You're like the child that I wish that I had, I care for you, just like a daughter I spawned, It's a little funny, you could almost call me dad They say, when you're looking for assistance, It's smart to pick the path of least resistance Sadly, there are times a birth parent is a dud, They say the family you choose is better Can you butt out of my song? I'm singing it, I'll finish it! And feast on all the angels you can eat! She's bound to pass the test as Princess of Hell, Like her Daddy, she is madly power-fell! She's filled with potential that I could guide Stick with her, you'll be in the winning side! For the first time in our lives, We know that we are ready for this It's time to take a stand We cannot take it anymore, The time has come to go to war, Prepare to fight, we're ready for... THIS! This place reeks of death, there's a chill in the air, And I barely escaped being killed by a hair, "Great Alastor, altruist, died for his friends" Sorry to disappoint, that is not where this ends, I'm hungry for freedom like never before, The constraints of my deal surely have a backdoor, Once I figure out how to unclip my wings, Guess who will be pulling all the strings? And we're doing it with a smile And then tomorrow it will be a fuckin happy day in hell!
Charlie I can do this, somehow I know it, I'll get Heaven behind my plans There's just no way I could blow it, Not this once-in-a-lifetime chance To change their minds and touch their hearts, Or whatever angels have Cheer up, Vaggie, This could be swell, Something tells me that today will be a happy day in Hell There's a warm, fuzzy feeling that wafts through the air, Every street so revealing, it's hard not to stare, It's a realm so appealing, it beats anywhere, If you don't mind the smell, It's a happy day in Hell, Hi, mister! Hello! Ah, excuse me! If I can show them the dream I've dreamed, That any soul can change, Those angels' minds are hard to change, Then they will know everyone can be redeemed, From the evil to the strange, They're bloodthirsty and deranged! I can hear all their stories, the lost and displaced, And I know that they're more of an acquired taste, But if I open the door and I give them a place, At my Hazbin Hotel, It'll be a happy day in Hell, From the porn studio, where the cinephiles go, To watch award-winning demon bukkake shows, To the Cannibal Town, where they don't wear a frown, 'Cause holy shit, oh my gosh, why?! And I don't give a crow that his brains got in my eye! 'Cause I know I can spare them from Heaven's genocide, I can do this, I just know it, I'll get Heaven behind my plans, There's just no way I could blow it, Not this once-in-a-lifetime chance to change their minds Uh, no thank you, I'm just gonna, Fulfill my destiny! I can already tell Today is gonna be a fuckin' happy day in Hell I know Hell's population is out of control, It's a bad situation, It's taking a toll, If we rehab these Sinners And cleanse all their souls, At my Hazbin Hotel, Wait, I'm getting ahead of myself! Right! Extermination! I know you guys fly down Just to kill once a year, And it must be annoying To schlep all the way here, If they join you in Heaven That trip disappears! You can wave that chore farewell G A S P It'll be a happy day in he- Oh.. ..'Kay Well, uh Okay, but Well, actually, if you take a look- Ugh where the Hell did you people come from? What? Um, wait, didn't you- Ugh, shit! It starts with sorry, That's your foot in the door, one simple sorry, Spoken straight from your core, The path to forgiveness is a twisting trail of hearts, But sorry is where it starts That's an option you could choose But who hasn't been in his shoes? It starts with sorry Dig down deeper and say one sincere sorry And your journey's underway, It'll take time to cover your vast multitude of sins, But sorry is where it begins, It starts with sorry thanks dad! That's true! Oh, you! awwww When I was young, I didn't really know you at all, I always felt so small, But I heard your stories and I was enthralled, The tales about your lofty dreams, I listened breathlessly, Imagining it could be me, So in the end, it's the view I had of you, That showed me dreams can be worth fighting for, More than anything, more than anything, I need to save my people more than anything I've been waiting, wanting the same thing Took you a while All that I'm hopin', now that my eyes are open, Is that we can start again, not be pulled apart again, 'Cause in the end, you are part of who I am And who could ask for more? More than anything More than anything I'm grateful you're my father more than anything, More than anything It's not fair, Sera No! Don't you care, Sera? That just because someone is dead, it doesn't Mean they can't resolve to change their ways, Turn the page, escape infernal blaze You didn't know? That's what the fuck I've been saying! If Hell is forever, then Heaven must be a lie If angels can do whatever, and remain in the sky, The rules are shades of gray when you don't do as you say, When you make the wretched suffer just to kill them again, I was told not to trust in angels No! Don't you see? We've come so close, Look at them fighting, they're at each other's throats Have you ever wanted something that was so clear in your mind that you could taste it? Eh, sort of, It's a feeling like a rumbling in your gut that you could finally be faced with, A billion needy faces, I guess what I mean to say is, for the first time in my life, I might have to be ready for this, Ready to be the one who's leading from the front, Gotta come into my own, Gotta come into my throne, Gotta take charge and defend my only home, And although I kinda feel unsteady, Now I need to be ready for this, Have you ever felt like you're willing to die to save the people of your city? That's a start! 'Cause right now we need a leader, And it seems to me that destiny has picked me, To be that, if you'll permit me, so who's with me? Wouldn't it be super to see more of Hell? Join up now if you like travel, Come on boys, hop in the saddle!, Lotta sights to see en route to my hotel, Not to mention the camaraderie, Yes siree, you'll form life-changing friendships, With the folks along the way Okay.. Well, that's a little violent, can we tone it down? Eh, they just seem a little murdery right now We're super-duper grateful, To have you folks aboard Oh, lord For the first time in my life, Maybe I can be ready for this, I can be the marshal leading the parade, I can come into my own, and I think I've always known, My destiny could never be postponed, When Adam brings the battle here, I must appear like I'm ready for this For the first time in our lives, we know that we are ready for this! It is time to lend a hand! Against the angels, and their deadly threat! We cannot take it anymore, The time has come to go to war, Prepare to fight, We're ready for this! I really hope that I'm ready for this There's something that I've been dying to say, More than anything, more than anything, Need you to know I love you more than anything,.More than anything He did it for us, the ultimate sacrifice, He gave me his trust, and look how we pay the price, This bloodshed could have been avoided, If I convinced Heaven to work together, I took a hotel and I destroyed it, I know I could have done better, Better, instead of letting you down So long as I've got all of you with me! No time for crying, we got a lot of work to do and, We gotta try and make the best of what's in ruins With a little sorcery! We'll make a difference, wait and see We can do this We'll be better Though it may take a while We're gonna do this, you and me, And then tomorrow it will be a fuckin' happy day in Hell!
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2024.05.12 02:41 ZeroCentsMade Entropy Will Take Us All – Logopolis Review

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Logopolis is the keystone. If you destroy Logopolis, you unravel the whole Causal Nexus. – The Monitor
Logopolis is, on paper at least, a very busy story. You've got a new companion to introduce, a new incarnation of the Master to establish, a plot about the universe ending, another new companion to establish after being introduced but not really made into a companion last story and, oh yeah, a regeneration. That's a lot.
So why does the story feel so stretched out?
Don't get me wrong, once it gets going, Logopolis is honestly a great story. The final episode and a half are genuinely engrossing television, some of the best material of the whole season (though admittedly there are even some caveats to that). But getting there…hoo boy.
What's funny is that I don't think cutting Logopolis down an episode or two solves the problem. The pacing issue here isn't length, it's something a bit more basic than that. See there's actually a lot happening in the first two and a half episodes, it just all takes the form of moving the characters into the positions that they need to be in for the climax. If not for the Master killing Tegan's Aunt Vanessa in episode 1 and the cloister bell ringing a bunch throughout the same episode, there would be no sense of danger in that episode, but you couldn't really cut much of it out. Because it's all important. It's just that there's no actual peril associated with it. It's moving around characters like pieces on a chessboard so that we can get to the good stuff.
The story opens with the Doctor deciding to go to Earth so that he can measure a police box. He wants to do this so that he can get exact measurements of the thing. And why does he want to do that? Well, simply put, if he does that, he can then go to Logopolis so that the Logopolitans can fix the chameleon circuit. Which is interesting, but doesn't really feel like the setup to a grand adventure. And yet there is a, quite effective, sense of foreboding that builds up behind all of this. This is the first time we hear the cloister bell, and, as a surprisingly late addition to Doctor Who's standard sound effects, it's pretty effective. It doesn't sound like your standard alarm noise, yet it perfectly encapsulates the idea of something dangerous happening – perfect for the idiosyncratic TARDIS. And of course there's the looming presence of the Watcher. A silent figure always just barely in frame, the Watcher is perfectly set up as the harbinger of something bad.
What he is though…is another matter entirely, but we're not there yet.
After a lot of time spent getting Tegan on the TARDIS, getting her Aunt Vanessa killed by the Master and various other shenanigans we finally arrive on the titular planet of Logopolis. That planet's society is so devoted to the study of mathematics that they can execute something called "block transfer computation" which allows for the creation of actual matter by reciting what is effectively a computer program. This is essentially a magic spell, though the story does a lot of work trying to present it as something more scientific. The way the Monitor – the Logopolitan leader – describes it, Logopolis essentially acts as a living computer. They could build actual computers, but the calculations they do are so subtle and complex that they would actually alter the computers themselves, rendering the programs useless.
And then writeScript Editor Christopher H. Bidmead does something clever. He makes Logopolis a culmination of the big arc that dominated much of the season.
It's often said that "entropy" is the main theme of Season 18. That's true…to an extent. The reality is that a lot of the time it's not entropy that's presented as the main theme, but rather it's more generic cousin decay. Much of E-Space was in various states of decay (including the vampire planet in…State of Decay) but this was more of an overarching aesthetic than actually hitting on the idea of entropy. But Logopolis finds a way of retroactively making the theme of all three E-Space stories entropy.
When the Master destabilizes Logopolis (he wants to take control of the planet, naturally) that's when the Monitor has to explain what Logopolis has been doing all this time. Their main work has been a desperate fight against entropy. See, without Logopolis, the universe would have succumbed to entropy long ago. Logopolis has kept entropy at bay by opening up Charged Vacuum Emboitments (CVEs) into other universes to siphon off energy from them. That CVE that the Doctor and Romana fell into back in Full Circle? That was one of them. It's a really clever way of tying the E-Space trilogy into the finale. And since Keeper of Traken was all about the Master's return and introducing Nyssa, that essentially makes Logopolis the culmination of the prior four stories of buildup.
As a concept, it's not without flaws though – well one in particular. The CVE that opened into E-Space was created by the Logopolitans to slow down entropy in our universe, but surely that means entropy would increase entropy in E-Space, causing that universe – that as a reminder is inhabited – to die more quickly (I am aware that there is a Big Finish trilogy that deals with exactly this). Isn't that pretty cruel of the Logopolitans? And how many of the other universes that the CVEs open into are populated? See when I noted the large amounts of decay occurring in E-Space, this story sort of retroactively implies that it's because of the Logopolitans. That's not even the only time the Logopolitans come across as morally dubious, although the other time at least feels intentional.
As mentioned before, we find out about the whole entropy thing because the Master starts messing with the Logopolitans, thus nearly causing the destruction of the entire universe via entropy. While technically appearing last story, this is the first time we really get a look at Anthony Ainley's version of the Master. I've never been a fan. Anthony Ainley will be appearing as The Master on and off for the remainder of the Classic Series' run and his performance does settle down somewhat by the end of the show, but I never really could get into his take on the character. It comes off as Roger Delgado with all the subtlety taken away. Delgado's Master was never the deepest character (well, maybe once or twice), but Delgado was always able to imbue him with a sense of restrained menace. Ainley just sort of attacks every line with pure malice in a way that just does not work for me.
Mind you, this is kind of what John Nathan-Turner wanted. The producer had intended for the new Master to be more like Delgado's Master than the decayed version seen in the last story and The Deadly Assassin but more malevolent and less humorous than Delgado's version. It's just that doing that really does take away from what made Delgado's Master work in the first place. The restraint, the "gentleman villain" persona was so captivating, and now we've absolutely lost that. It's not to say that there's no other way to make the Master work but this is just a poor man's Delgado.
And that's not the only odd choice made with the Master in this story. The Master's face is kept out of sight for most of the first two episodes of the story. This was done, apparently, to make it seem plausible that the Watcher was in fact the Master. Now the restraint shown in keeping the villain limited to a few offscreen laughs for the majority of the first two episodes does create some buildup. But…we saw the Master's new face at the end of the last story. And under different circumstances maybe you could argue that not everyone watching Logopolis necessarily saw Keeper, but if you were trying to build in a twist for those who hadn't watched the prior story, perhaps Logopolis shouldn't have been so much of a direct sequel to the Keeper.
Which isn't to say that Logopolis gets nothing to due with the Master right. In fact, the Master's actual plan is a well-conceived plot. Actually, this story largely takes the same the same basic plot structure as many of the 3rd Doctor era stories featuring the Master. The Master comes up with a plan for conquest, but his arrogance causes him to overlook how it would go wrong. Ultimately, the Master and the Doctor have to work together to stop the threat that the Master has accidentally unleashed. There are two things that make this different from the 3rd Doctor stories of this ilk (eg Terror of the Autons). First, in most of those 3rd Doctor stories, it was some alien menace that the Master had allied himself with before it all would go wrong for him. But in this story, he just happens to fail to realize that Logopolis is the glue that's keeping the universe together. It allows him to take a central role as villain, but we still get those great scenes where the Doctor and the Master are suddenly working together.
But that's the other big change to the formula here. In the past, typically the Master has collaborated in relative good faith with the Doctor when the two are forced to work together. The Master would always make sure he had an escape route before UNIT (or whoever) could arrest him. But aside from that by the end of the story the Master would just be trying to survive the mess he'd made. But here, the Master is continuing to further his plans for universal conquest. And he nearly pulls it off. We'll talk more about the Doctor later, but suffice to say the Master has never been quite so successful in manipulating his arch-rival than in the final moments of this story. It's actually well-done, where we see the that the Master is up to something whenever the Doctor isn't looking, and the Doctor is, of course, suspicious, but it's he doesn't quite have the information to put together what the Master is actually doing. It works quite well.
And speaking of characters first introduced in the last story, Nyssa's back. Apparently brought to Logopolis by the Watcher at first she just wants to find him. And then she does! Looking about twenty years younger and strangely malicious. I've seen people complain that Nyssa comes off looking stupid here. Personally I can buy that, desperate to find her father, she just accepts that he's been de-aged. At bare minimum her trust in the man who looks like a younger version of her father is more excusable than Kassia's trust in the Melkur last story – the fact that both turn out to be the Master notwithstanding. She also gets a really good moment in episode 4, where she realizes that the Master has, in order, killed her step-mother, her father and then destroyed her world, "blotted out forever". Good acting from Sarah Sutton and a genuinely moving scene. But Nyssa's involvement in this story feels a lot more perfunctory than her fairly strong debut. While normally I wouldn't necessarily mind. Logopolis has a lot on its plate after all, and after giving the character a strong debut we can theoretically afford Nyssa taking a more secondary role in this story. But, considering this is actually the story that establishes Nyssa as a companion, it would be nice if she had a little more to do.
Then again, a lot of Bidmead's time was clearly spent trying to establish Tegan. Here we're a lot more successful. Tegan instantly works in this story. The basic idea of the character was a loudmouth Australian (as to why it was decided that new companion should be Australian, see the "Stray Observations" section) whose shouty demeanor was used to cover up her insecurities. We see this playing out nicely through episode 1. Tegan is a flight attendant, or at least about to become one, apparently visiting England and her Aunt before taking her first job starting at Heathrow. We see her insist on taking care of her aunt's car when it breaks down herself – she doesn't trust mechanics and, as she puts it, "It's the 1980s Aunt Vanessa. No knight errants."
Eventually, Tegan accidentally wanders onto the TARDIS out of mixture of curiosity and confusion and gets lost in its corridors – and if Logopolis ever does feel like it's just marking time, it's in these scenes. Tegan does discover the Master's TARDIS within the Doctor's but nothing really comes of that. Once she gets involved in the action properly though, Tegan does something she'll be doing a lot over the course of the next season – complaining to the Doctor. It does work, and to her credit in other moments she shows a degree of interest and curiosity, in spite of being annoyed. And one scene in particular stands out. When she sees how the Logopolitans work she pretty much immediately takes issue with it, telling the Monitor to his face that it looks like a sweatshop. This sets up a pretty interesting discussion between the two, though it's sadly never really resolved. On the whole, while not the best companion introduction of the 4th Doctor era (it's really hard to beat either The Face of Evil or Ribos Operation) it's a strong one all the same.
I should quickly touch on Adric here, although he doesn't do much. In the first episode, when it's just him and the Doctor he does surprisingly little. Later on, he seems quite pleased to see Nyssa again, the first signs of him having a bit of a crush on the Trakenite princess. He takes the most intellectual interest of our characters in the Logopolitan mathematics, and in particular in block transfer computation, something that will pay off next story. Otherwise he's kind of in the background for much of this. This will be a recurring problem for much of the 5th Doctor era, where having 3 companions will force one into the background.
And then, there's the Doctor. I've often remarked that Tom Baker can, by this point, pull off a compelling performance as the Doctor in his sleep. So the question, I suppose, is, does he wake up for this, his final story? Eh…sometimes. Again, Baker's never bad in this story, because he's just not capable of that at this point, and he's definitely more lively than he was in some earlier stories (presumably no longer feeling ill helps out a lot in that department), but he's had way better performances earlier the 4th Doctor era. In spite of the fact that it was ultimately his decision, Tom Baker was not happy to be leaving Doctor Who, and apparently made life difficult for everyone on set as a result (which is not particularly out of character). According to himself, Baker was not taking direction, Janet Fielding recalls him being angry at everyone, and John Nathan-Turner remembers that after he filmed his final scene, Baker simply left without a word.
As for the Doctor's actual characterization in his final story, there are a few moments worth highlighting. When the Logopolitan formulas for fixing the chameleon circuit are inputted into the TARDIS, the Doctor insists on his companions remaining outside the TARDIS. Given that the Master corrupted the calculations, this turns out to be a good thing, but it does raise the question of why the Doctor thought something might go wrong. I think that, given the presence of the Watcher, we can assume the Doctor knew his regeneration was coming soon, and didn't want to take any unnecessary risks.
Also we see the return of some of the 4th Doctor's most notable characteristics. The first, and something I've talked about a lot, is his fallibility. When the Doctor realizes that the Master is still alive after the events on Traken, he naturally assumes that the Master is after him. But this turns out to be wrong, and a pretty grave error. As the Doctor puts it, "And I was vain enough to think it was me he was after." As for the other, it's the 4th Doctor's more mercurial nature. To some extent in the latter half of the 4th Doctor era, he's become a cuddlier version of himself. But as he makes a deal with the Master, his companion object, only for the Doctor to run them each down. Pointing out how none of them were invited to travel with him. This actually serves as the perfect set up for each of them to provide some crucial help the Doctor in the final scenes of the story.
And of course, there's the regeneration. And with it…we have to talk about the Watcher. In principle, this is fine. Sure it's different from any other regeneration we've seen to this point, but there's not a set way for these things to go. And it isn't entirely unprecedented. After all, the Abbot regenerated into Cho-Je who was just a mental projection of the Abbot back in Planet of the Spiders. This ends up working a little differently – Tom Baker doesn't finish his regeneration as a creepy man with entirely white skin – but the idea feels similar enough that, while probably accidental, the parallel still holds up. The Watcher being more ethereal than Cho-Je can be put down to the Doctor's lack of control over his regenerations when compared to Time Lords – as seen with Romana's regeneration back in Destiny of the Daleks. And, you know, it's all fiction at the end of the day. As long as it's possible for the audience to follow what's going on, you can get away with a lot.
My issue is that everything feels kind of underexplained. Hell, we don't even really explain what regeneration is, and sure anyone watching knows that there have been multiple Doctors, but it still feels like the sort of thing that someone, maybe Adric who has been traveling with the Doctor for a bit, could explain. And for that matter, the one line of explanation we do get is baffling for it's own reasons. "He [The Watcher] was the Doctor all along" says Nyssa, knowing this…somehow. Sure, she's right, but that it's Nyssa saying this, who knows basically nothing about the Doctor or Time Lords just doesn't track. Her only experience with Time Lords changing bodies is the Master taking over her father's body, something which she only found out about later. And that gets to my main problem with this regeneration – it all feels very ad hoc.
Which isn't to say there's nothing good about it. The Doctor seeing hallucinations, first of former villains as he's about to fall to his (temporary) death and then of all his old companions works really well. It's the first instance of this, and it's something that works well enough that we'll see it get repeated a couple of times. And I do think his last line, as aggravating as how the whole regeneration is handled, "It's the end, but the moment has been prepared for", is a good line. And that ending shot of Peter Davison as the Doctor smiling then sitting up works really well.
On a technical level, this story is a strong one. The Logopolitans initially look just like humans but have these enlarged backs of their skulls, presumably meant to emphasize their intelligence. Logopolis itself is a very impressive set. It's one of the few alien city sets to this point that genuinely feels like an actual location on not just a few corridors. The Watcher looks very appropriately mysterious and creepy. And the music is some of the absolute best work from this era. Paddy Kingsland, who probably should have become the show's permanent composer based on his work at this time, but sadly only ever got to work on a handful of stories from Seasons 18-21, does a remarkable job backing up the mood and style of the piece. Logopolis gets a a memorable theme that feels tinkly yet serious, the Watcher of course gets some creepy music, the Master gets a sinister sting for a lot of his actions, and so on. The story really is fun to just listen to for its music.
And that's a solid note to end on, because, while I do have some very major complaints, I do like Logopolis. There's a pacing issue early on, probably too many moving parts and that regeneration is mishandled, but once it gets going it's genuinely engrossing stuff. Logopolis is an inherently interesting setting, while I take some issues with how the Master is portrayed, I do like the effect he has on the plot, and the foreboding atmosphere is played perfectly. And hell, even in that first half, Tegan gets a solid enough intro. A pretty good sendoff to the 4th Doctor on the whole, though not without reservations.
Score: 7/10

Stray Observations

Next Time: This was the season that Tom Baker finally left the show. And it felt like the show was leaving him behind, even as he stuck around for one more season.
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